Stolen Valour

Stolen Valour

Surname: Meiers
Christian Names: William John
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland
City or Town: Wondai
Service #: 3174783
Service: CMF
Branch: Artillery
Commencement of service: 26/01/1965
Completion of service: 01/10/1971
Case Notes:

 

UPDATE  June 2018

Since publishing the report about William John Meiers of Wondai Queensland, we have received further information about his false claims to be a returned veteran.  Here is a clearer picture of him on ANZAC day 2018.

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More of his disgraceful lies have come to light.

 

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His stupidity is evidenced by his use of the term "Nam" instead of "Vietnam".  Genuine veterans never us the term "Nam".  He also claims to have been at Fire Support Base Coral,  where he fired at the enemy over "open sights at 100 yards". He was not there.

From a Facebook entry, Meiers talks about number  ‘6’ gun of 12 Field Regiment that featured in the Battle of Coral in Vietnam.  Meiers claims to have been there, but he wasn't.  He has written the word "books" in the second sentence, we assume he meant to write "gooks" which is another term never used in Vietnam. 

 

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Here is a shocker.  Meiers gives adoration to the Australian flag because he fought under it and his mates died under it.  He is lying sham of a man.

 

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Finally with great confidence in his deceit, he led the Wondai RSL Sub Branch in their ANZAC Day march. 

 

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Since publishing our first report we have heard nothing from Meiers.  He appears to be hiding, perhaps using the skills he learned in the jungles of Vietnam.  Be assured that glorying in the kudos of being a "Returned Soldier" may expand the ego,  but Australian and New Zealand Veterans will not tolerate the stealing of their honour. 

Those who do, and are caught out, will appear on this website, which has a tendency to deflate the largest of egos.

 

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CASE NOTES: 

William John Meiers was born on 14 April 1946 and is a "Life Subscriber" member of the Returned and Service League (RSL) in Wondai Qld. He transferred from Jimboomba Qld in 2010. On the transfer certificate, his Army Unit is listed as 15 Fd Regt (15 Field Regiment) and his Regimental number 3174782.



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Meiers is wearing lots of buttons and badges as well as Vietnam service medals. His array is somewhat askew, as the medals are not in their proper order. In the photograph he has:

1. Australian Active Service Medal
2. Vietnam Medal
3. Commemoration of National Service Medal
4. Australian Defence Medal.

Medals 3 and 4 are in the wrong order. This is a bungle no genuine Returned Veteran would make. It is however, a blunder that a conniving Wannabe and Medal Cheat would do.

Because wannabes lack the experience of genuine Returned Veterans, they believe they can fool all the people all the time. Being photographed wearing false medals is not a good strategy, and it is a major factor in bringing these caitiffs to the justice of the Returned Veterans communities.

Fortunately, there are observant Returned Veterans at the Wondai RSL, who picked up on aspects of Meiers’ behaviour and his medals rack, indicating that he was not the full package.

Obviously Wondai has not succumbed to the general malaise throughout the RSL, where numbers seem to take precedence over integrity. The RSL membership requirements are being gradually eroded whereby inexperienced people are monitoring membership criterion. This decrepitude starts at the very top, where the National President of the RSL is not a Returned Veteran.

On 13th April 2018, Meiers sent an email to a genuine veteran detailing his involvement in the famous Vietnam Battle of Fire Support Base Coral on the 13th May 1968. Here is what he said:

Forwarded message

From: Bill Meiers <bill.meiers@y7mail.com>;
Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:00 AM
Subject: Latest RSL News
To:

G'day xxxxxxxxx

Just got my RSL news and came across the story of Coral. Well, the first attack on Coral. It's not a long article, but it is the most accurate story of what happened that I have ever read. It is written by a bloke who was a junior officer at the time and was there at the front. We deployed on May 12, and were attacked at about 0215 - 0230 hrs on the 13th. I was the number 2 on number 4 gun.

I've read a number of stories about Coral, but they all have some problems when it comes to accuracy. It's great that a story is written by someone who was right there where it was happening. Read it if you get the chance.

See you on 25th.
Bill


Meiers is a liar. He was not “number 2 on number 4 gun”, he was not at Fire Support Base Coral, in Vietnam on the 13th May 1968 when 12 Field Regiment t fought gallantly against overwhelming odds and sustained casualties.

Meiers was approached and requested to show proof of his service. Here is his response:

Bill Meiers <bill.meiers@y7mail.com>
Sat, May 19, 2018 at 5:00 PM

Obviously, you haven't spoken to too many Vets suffering PTSD. These blokes, some of them, are still up in the trees, and many will never come down. Many have died up there. Don't fucking tell me that Vets have no problems telling you their bona fides.

Why am I wasting my time even responding to you? I have a good idea of who or what you are, but you haven't had the decency to let me in on the secret. Well xxxxxxxx, you go and do all your investigation and fucking leave me alone.

Bill


On 20 May he included his number name, rank and unit in an email to a researcher

“3174783
Meiers, WJ Bdr
15 Fd Regt, R Bty, RAA

You call yourself a researcher??? And you didn't even know that. Perhaps you did, and you are only trying to sucker me in. And yes, the PTSD is very real and has been for many years. And it is never going away. I live on my happy pills”.

Bill


The unit in which he claimed that he served, 15 Field Regiment was a Citizens Military Forces unit formed in Dandenong, Victoria, in 1962. The Unit then amalgamated with the 2 Fd Regt in 1975 and was redesignated as 2/15 Fd Regt. It was never deployed to Vietnam.

Notice in his reply, he infers that he is a Returned Veteran with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) because of his service. Playing that false card is disgraceful behaviour. Perhaps he has falsely convinced his friends and family of his "Vietnam caused PTSD".

The first stop in an investigation of this nature is the Department of Veterans Affairs, Nominal Roll of Vietnam Veterans. It is ninety nine percent accurate. Those not listed have requested that their names be removed. It is, however, easy to procure evidence of service through various Unit Associations and other historical documents. The reason for Meiers' non-listing is that he never served in Vietnam.


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We then sought information from 12 Field Regiment Association, the Artillery Unit that was actually present at Coral. Here is their response:
“The 12 Field Regiment maintains a Nominal Roll of all of our blokes who were on the ground at Coral. This includes all sub-units and attached units.
In the past, this roll has proven to be very accurate and has settled a lot of disputes, however I cannot categorically state that there are no omissions.
That said, there is no-one by the name of William Meiers (or any other reasonable version of this spelling) included on the Roll and I reckon it’s a 99% bet that he wasn’t at Coral with 12 Field Regiment and its attached units.”


On 22 May 2018 almost one month after his appearance at the Wondai RSL wearing false medals Meiers said the following –;


"From Bill Meiers
To: XX
I've thought long and hard about this and have delayed answering you as I've been to see my head doctor this morning, prearranged, nothing to do with our conversation.
My mental health is more important than anything else, and I have to control my anger and aggressiveness, along with my desire to fight everything. I'm sure you took note of my aggro in some of my responses.
So I am not prepared to go any further with this matter for those reasons and also I am not prepared to divulge private information. It is just not worth it.

So, Mr Ed, I will retire my jacket and medals to the wardrobe. I will not cause Wondai RSL, or any other RSL, any further consternation. Further, I will not darken their doorstep again, so avoiding any embarrassment to parties concerned.

I hope this is acceptable and the matter can rest.

Regards
Bill Meiers"



Although Meiers maintains his claim of being a Returned Veteran, there is no doubt he is a fraud. He never served with any unit in Vietnam and served only in Dandenong, Victoria with 15 Fd Regt. We believe this matter can be decided by a Magistrate and have taken steps to ensure that Meiers has an appointment at his local Court House.
We suggest that Meiers be told to pack his goods and chattels and “nick off” from Wondai RSL and any other RSL. However, we will award him full membership with honours on this website.

For every day he has pretended to be a Vietnam Veteran he will serve Ten years on this website

Surname: Jenkins
Christian Names: Peter Kevin
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland (Formerly SA)
City or Town: Maroochydore (Formerly Mackay)
Service #: Nil
Service: Nil
Branch: Nil
Commencement of service: N/A
Completion of service: N/A
Case Notes:

 

 UPDATE June 2018.

Peter Kevin JENKINS aka DOBSON aka Nathan CANE aka CAINE

Scruples are part of the fabric that hold our society together. Peter Kevin JENKINS has none, and the best place for him is his current residence at Casuarina Prison, Perth Western Australia. In his latest escapade this forty year old man has blamed his mother for his disgraceful criminal acts. Here is a newspaper report:


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We have been reporting this abominable man since 2014. During this time he has been in and out of prison, and has devoted his life to criminal self indulgence at the expense of vulnerable people. He does his dirty work on Internet Dating Websites.

He still .uses the ploy of heroic military service to win the confidence of susceptible, trusting ladies on dating sites. He has also claimed to be an Emergency Response Medical Doctor, an Australian Football League Team Doctor, and an Accountant.

Jenkins exhibits the traits of a pathological liar. He does not lie for self satisfaction alone, he lies to support his criminal activities. He is obviously a person of little intelligence as he is always caught out for his recidivist criminality. We believe that no amount of prison time will redeem this piece of canine excrement.

We are confident that after his current sojourn in Casuarina Prison, he will again succumb to the twisted traits of his personality, to be an ineffectual criminal, who has no qualms about destroying other peoples lives for his own selfish pursuits.

 

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CASE NOTES

We have on our web site numerous examples of men who make a career of "sponging" off vulnerable women. These pathetic examples of humanity always exhibit the symptoms of being pathological liars. Peter Kevin Jenkins of Maroochydore is such an excuse for a man.

National Australia Archives were unable to locate a Defence Service File for Peter Kevin Jenkins. We hold Statutory Declarations detailing Jenkins version of his military history.

Here is what Jenkins has to say:

He joined the Australian Army aged 18 years

Served in the Special Air Service (SAS)

Was shot four times and will show his scars to prove it

Served in Afghanistan, Timor and Papua New Guinea

Held suspected terrorists in a container terminal tortured them for 12 days then shot them in the back of the head.

Gets a War Pension of $2,800 a fortnight

He refuses to attend ANZAC day commemorations because although he served 18 years the Australian Defence Force did not care about him.

Around ANZAC Day in 2014 he was very depressed because of the things he had to do for his country.

Claims to possess "7 hand guns"

He has four war medals which he will readily exhibit and is booked to receive another at a medals presentation ceremony in Canberra in August 2014.


There are numerous examples of scurrilous dishonest wimps on this web site who seek free board and lodgings whilst claiming to be serving or ex serving Special Forces Servicemen, These mongrels falsely blame their tantrums and bad behaviour on the Psychological injuries received whilst involved in heroic Defence service, which is always of a secret nature, such as described by Jenkins when he "murdered prisoners of war".

We know that Jenkins has previously resided in the Mackay area of Queensland, and South Australia. We would appreciate information from others he has conned before moving to Maroochydore.

Peter Kevin Jenkins is the epitome of the exact opposite of how a genuine SAS Regiment soldier would act. He is without scruples, honour or human decency. From now on, whenever his name is typed into a search engine this truth about him will emerge.

We welcome Jenkins to our web site with the knowledge that this is the retribution wrought upon liars frauds and wannabes who infest the Australian and New Zealand Veteran Communities.

 

UPDATE Peter Kevin Jenkins aka Peter Kevin Cane

Since publishing our exposure of Jenkins we have received further information, including advice from a person who served with him during his military career. We now know that he did have a military career, although it was less than auspicious, very short, and served under his real name, which is Peter Kevin Cane born 9 March 1978.

5800672 Peter Kevin Cane aka Jenkins, enlisted into the Australian Regular Army on 4 September 1995 and was discharged 21 October 1995. The reason for his discharge was that he was "Not suited to be a soldier" Obviously the Enlistment Officer made an error when he approved Jenkins aka Cane's application to enlist.

There is no real shame in being discharged for the reason of being unsuitable, as not everybody is suited for the rigours of Army service. There is however monumental shame when a person falsely claims to have served heroically with the Special Air Service Regiment (SASR), when they failed Recruit Training, which is, in part, designed to cull out those who are not suited for military life.

Since our exposure of Jenkins he has written some murderous and lying emails. He fails to understand that he is the author of his current situation because of his lies and deceit. In the email below, he threatens the life of an ANZMI investigator and his family.

"Peter Jenkins 19 Jul 14

Hi xxxx,

I've lost my wife because of you, so i think it's only fitting that you lose something in return.
Now your website is only a vigilante website as i described before, so what is going to happen now i am and will take your life, weather (sic) it be by a slash to the throat or maybe i will take a valued member or your family, it seems to me that you seem it necessary to make assumptions in regards to members of the public with which you have no evidence against their affiliation in one way or another against the military. now i promise i will find you and i will make you pay, the only person i ever loved was my partner an you thought it was up too you to play god or whatever reason you thought that made you better then the rest of us humans.

Your time on this earth is coming to an end, in other words your life expectancy has narrowed.

I lost my wife because of you, so its only fitting you lose the same, Im not worried about the police, call me 0459438603, but your life expextency (sic) is very short"


The reason he "lost" his partner was because he had lied to her during the whole of their relationship. It is a common trait, for lying sponging "love rat" wannabes to live a life of complete fiction, with promises of riches to come, as long as their partners pay for everything.

Only pathological liars can get away with this behaviour and Jenkins aka Cane is a very model of an unrepentant Australian pathological liar.

Here is another example of his lying skills where he claims we have got it wrong:

We hold Statutory Declarations from people outside of his family who have provided evidence about his lies. He also states "If he done his homework he would have found my Service Record" We did our homework and no person with the name Jenkins had completed the Army service described by Jenkins aka Cane. He fails to mention that his Service Record is under a different name.

We have no doubt that Jenkins aka Cane will surface and re-offend in another location, perhaps under another name. We urge all persons concerned for the integrity of the Veterans and ex Service communities to keep watch for this disgusting individual

 

Update Peter Kevin Jenkins aka Peter Kevin Cane - 23 Oct 14

The rat has resurfaced and is still using his hackneyed modus operandi. He has departed Queensland and his area of operation is now Western Australia (WA). He appears to be working to the same script he used in Queensland. Here are reports from Perth WA about his latest activities.

Victim 1

"I was sucked into his lies about being in the special forces and his gun shot wounds stories. He told me so many lies and I felt totally degraded after I found out that he wasn't who he claimed to be. I met him off a dating site called Oasis and he had been to my house a few times. When we found out the truth he started threatening myself and my daughter. I reported him to the police and was considering a VRO but he backed off and hasn't contacted me in a while. I had him banned from Oasis as I emailed the site to tell them that he is a con man and fraud".

From family member of Victim 2

"He said he served at 3 Battalion Royal Australian Regiment then 2nd Commando Regiment then Special Air Service Regiment. He alleged he served for 17 years in the Army and went to Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA), his father was military. His son is allegedly now at ADFA. He claims he did an exchange with US Army in Sacramento, California USA. He showed footage of a Channel Nine documentary he claims he appeared in, of course he could not be identified in the documentary. He mentioned he was shot four times, showed his wounds and he said he lost his mate, I believe the name to be Xxxx xxxxx. I couldn't find any such death. The date alleged was around 22 Sep 2012. His attitude seemed a bit too much bravado for an ex SASR soldier. He mentioned using a HKMP6, to which I couldn't find (hkmp5 and hkmp7 I could find) and claims it was a 9mm weapon. Used the names of places in Afghanistan, Tarin Kowt, Urozgan Province etc. Names of different aircraft used, and military vehicles. Yet some of the names used such as Bushmaster was referred to as Bushranger were a bit off.

Claims he started at ADFA as a lieutenant and reached rank of Captain. Dropped names, claims to know Corporal Ben Roberts-Smith. Offered to take me to the "kill house" in Swanbourne and observe the boys going through. Claims to own weapons and has a firearms licence."


ANZMI Investigators do not use profane language when writing up wannabes like Jenkins, but if we did, we would say that Jenkins is a Mongrel Bastard who has:

Threatened to kill an ANZMI Investigator and his family.
Threatened the family of one of his victims.
Threatened innocent people who have woken up to his lies and deceit.
Falsely claimed to have served as an elite soldier.
Falsely claimed to have been wounded in action.
Falsely claimed to be a Returned Veteran.

Jenkins has clearly committed a raft of offences. In particular against the Defence Act 1903, Part VII section 80A having falsely claimed to be a returned soldier. This offence is punishable by a maximum fine of $3.300 or six months imprisonment or both. The problem is, unlike other States, the WA Police will not even accept reports regarding this offence.'

Jenkins is the lowest of the low, he preys on vulnerable honest people who are genuinely looking for companionship. His swarthy appearance and his ability to lie without compunction make him a very dangerous and evil individual, who lacks the ability to attract a companion relying on his innate assets. He is a pathological liar, who when cornered will threaten violence.

We remind ex SASR members that Jenkins is sullying the impeccable reputation of the Regiment. We ask Veterans and ex Service persons all over Australia, and particularly in Western Australia to keep watch for Jenkins. Together we can keep up with his movements and "hound" him until he ceases his abominable behaviour.

Finally we say to Jenkins - "Go to hell because that is where you belong"
 
 

Update: Peter Kevin Jenkins aka Peter Kevin Cane – 22 Apr 15

 

Jenkins is back on duty in Brisbane.

His "mission" in Brisbane coincided with the latest Defence deployments to Iraq.  Jenkins told a very nice and genuine lady that he was resting before deployment to Iraq with Special Air Service Regiment (SASR).

His latest and disgusting heroic stories include being  shot four times in Afghanistan, resulting in the loss of one lung, and having a metal plate inserted into his chest.  His life was saved by the American Base Hospital in Germany where he was  recuperating for six months.

Despite his wounding and loss of body parts he is now  off to Iraq to fight against ISIS.

During his sojourn in Brisbane he stayed at a Brisbane Hotel and made it known that Defence was paying his account - Yeh and pigs can fly.

Jenkins arranges dates from Internet Dating Sites and being a naturally inadequate person has to adopt the persona of a battle hardened Army Veteran to charm a Lady.

In real life he is nothing but a frightened idiot who could not even cope with Army Recruit Training from which he was sacked after a couple of weeks for being "Not Suited to be a Soldier".

Before this latest "mission" he operated in Perth Western Australia and before that in the Sunshine Coast area of Queensland.

We will do all we can to have Police action taken against Jenkins for falsely claiming to be a Returned Veteran. 

Those who choose to use Internet Dating Sites should keep a watch for this liar, conman and pathological liar and let us know where he is operating

 

UPDATE 09 JULY 2015

BEWARE JENKINS IS NOW OPERATING UNDER THE NAME OF DOBSON.

Here is a new Facebook entry that he has created:

Since our last report he has been operating in the Eastern States.  It is believed he may have travelled  back to Western Australia, but at the moment could be anywhere.

Here is a recent report about him:

"From my understanding this creep pretends to be an ex-SASR soldier as well as a current St John's Ambulance MICA Paramedic so he can pray on young and vulnerable woman and girls. The latest information is that he is going by the name Peter Dobson, is residing in Queensland and is currently unemployed"

We previously detailed his activities in Brisbane and  can now report that prior to his arrival in Brisbane, he was in jail in Tamworth, New South Wales. Below is a Newspaper Report that shows Jenkins as being a small time criminal and a drunk rather than the debonair, swaggering Special Air Service Soldier that he would have people believe.

As detailed in the above newspaper report Jenkins has a criminal history in New South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania. Also in most Australian States he has trawled Dating Sites and told disgusting lies about himself.

Following our last update JENKINS (now known as DOBSON) wrote us another of his disgusting threatening emails:

We suggest that any person who has the displeasure of meeting or communicating with Jenkins aka Dobson report his presence to us and their nearest Police Station. We will continue to pursue him until he stops portraying himself as a returned wounded Veteran.  

 

UPDATE 11 NOV  2015 - JENKINS aka DOBSON aka NATHAN CANE

JENKINS IS STILL ON THE PROWL AND NOW USES THE NAME:  NATHAN CANE.

He is still "surfing" date websites seeking vulnerable ladies.

Have no doubt Jenkins  is a criminal, conman, liar and a wannabe.  He is back in Western Australia and continues trawling for "marks" on date websites.  Here are some of his latest false claims:

Notice that he says "Hate playing games??!!"  "Hate being told lies??!!"

They are interesting utterances, as Jenkins aka Cane is the king of games and deception and is a pathological liar.

He is not a "professional" does not have a "Bachelors Degree", does not speak Dutch

Beware of Jenkins aka Dobson aka Cane.

As a service to the community let us know if you have been, or currently are, a victim of Jenkins/Dobson/Cane

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
Surname: Paynting
Christian Names: Barry
Country: Australia
State or Province: New South Wales
City or Town: Gulgong
Service: Citizens Military Forces (CMF) Army
Branch: Catering Corps
Case Notes:

 

Barry Paynting purports to be a chaste man, having served with the Salvation Army for many years. He was also a chased man because he decided to falsely claim to be a Returned Veteran with six months or more service in the former Republic of South Vietnam.


Barry Paynting



Paynting is wearing:

Australian Active Service Medal
Vietnam Medal
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
Australian Defence Medal

All of the above are false. It would have taken planning and expenditure to purchase, mount, and wear the fake medals, therefore it was not "a spur of the moment" event.

Paynting wore the Vietnam medals on ANZAC Day 2018 at the Gulgong Returned and Services League Club (RSL). Although Paynting is a Director of the Gulgong RSL Memorial Club, he is not a member of the Gulgong RSL Sub Branch. One would think that in a small town like Gulgong, Paynting, as a Director of the memorial Club, would be enthusiastic to join and support the Gulgong RSL Sub Branch. Perhaps, he knows that he would have to provide proof of his military service and medallic entitlements. A requirement that he would be unable to comply with.

On his Facebook, he shows that he served as a "Sgnt Cook 3RAR" (Sergeant Cook 3 Battalion Royal Australian Regiment). Any person who has served as a Sergeant in the Army knows well that the abbreviation is "Sgt" and not "Sgnt", and no, it is not a “typo”.

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Paynting never served in South Vietnam, never served with 3RAR and was never a "Sgnt". When asked about the Facebook entry, this chaste man said blithely that his Facebook had been "hacked". Not so, according to our witnesses, who saw him wearing the medals on Anzac Day 2018.

Paynting has participated in the religious segments of commemorative events at the Gulgong RSL, espousing righteousness and morality to all and sundry.

He has now well and truly "blotted his copy book" and should be drummed out of that establishment.

Chaste Salvation Army men should not tell lies about their military service, otherwise they will be chased by genuine Veterans.

As Paynting is a person of religion he may be forgiven by the powers that be, however the Returned Veteran Community are unforgiving and he will stay on public display as a liar, cheat and wannabe for a very long time.

Surname: Pool
Christian Names: Peter James
Country: Australia
State or Province: New south Wales
City or Town: Bundeena
Service #: 2244138
Service: (ARes) Australian Army Reserve
Branch: Infantry
Commencement of service: 23 July 1966
Completion of service: Unknown
Case Notes:

 

 

Peter James POOL Update. – June 2018.

Following our recent exposure of Peter James Pool, he resigned his membership of the NSW RSL State Branch and the Bundeena RSL Sub Branch, Sydney, on the 19 February, 2018. He admitted that he was not entitled to wear the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal.

Pool was the Senior Vice President of the Bundeena RSL Sub Branch and was next in line for the position of President of that Branch. A position he was keen to be appointed.


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Pool states in his letter of resignation to NSW RSL State Branch that -;

"Following recent publications on my non entitlement to wear the Sth Vietnam/Republic medal and ribbon, I accept that this should not have been worn due (to) requirements of days (just falling short) and apologise for the oversight when all medals were mounted".

Pool just does not get it. He continues to lie even when he is caught out. Pool has been accredited with 44 days active service in Vietnam waters. He knows that. The requirement for the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (RVCM) is 181 days. It always has been. Pool knows that as well. Pool is 137 days short of qualifying for this medal.

He also claims "it was an oversight when all the medals were mounted". Pool would have been very aware of the requirements for his entitlement to the RVCM. He was never awarded it. He purchased it on e bay or at a Medal Dealers shop and had it court mounted. That was no "oversight".

Pool is a false pretender and a medal cheat.

Pool puts himself out there in his LInkedin profile as -;

Peter James POOL.
-CAPTAIN AND CHIEF MARINE ENG.-
ASDE ,/ PJP COMMERCIAL MARINE.


Peter Pool



He lacks credibility and he has no place in the veteran community. Welcome to the website, Peter James Pool.

 

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CASE NOTES

Peter James Pool was born on the 15 December, 1947. He enlisted in 1 Commando Company in the part time Australian Army Reserves (Ares) on the 23 July, 1966. Records indicate that he was with 1 Commando Company until 23 December, 1968. He later transferred over to full time Reserves, Australia Regular Army. (ARA)

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As a Private soldier, Peter James Pool was subsequently posted to the Australian Army ship, the “John Monash”. The John Monash was a 1400 ton Cargo ship. Photograph below -;

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Service history

John Monash was built for the Associated Steamships Co. and was completed in 1955. She was purchased by the Australian Army in 1965 to provide a means of transporting cargo which was unsuitable for the Army's four Landing Ship Medium and was assigned to the 32nd Small Ship Squadron, Royal Australian Engineers. She was also used as a training ship and to supply Army units deployed in South Vietnam. In the later role she completed eleven voyages to South Vietnam between 1965 and 1972.The ship was sold in 1975 to a foreign company
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Source Wikepedia.

Between the 25 October, 1969 and the 7 December, 1969, John Monash sailed from Australia to South Vietnam with vital cargo for the Australian war effort. According to the Vietnam Nominal Roll, Peter Pool was a member of the crew. The ship returned to Australia on the 7 December, 1969, 44 days later..

In the recent photograph above, Peter James Pool is wearing the following medals.
1. Australian Active Service medal. Entitled.
2. Vietnam Medal. (28 days or more Vietnam waters) Entitled.
3. Australian Defence Medal. Entitled.
4. Anniversary of National Service Medal. Purchased. Not entitled.
5. Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal. RVCM (181 days in Vietnam) Purchased. Not entitled.


Usually, the ship on arrival in South Vietnam, unloaded stores within a day or two, and then returned directly to Australia. It was called the “Shuttle Run” by those associated with her.

Operational service for all crew members on these voyages is calculated from the time the ship departed the last Australian port, until it returned to the next Australian port.

In the case of Peter Pool, 44 days.

Below is a copy of his Vietnam War Service from the Vietnam Nominal Roll -;

Vietnam War Service

Veteran Details

Name POOL, Peter James
Service Australian Army
Service Number 2244138
Date of Birth 15 Dec 1947
Place of Birth SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA
Rank Private
National Service No
Corps Royal Australian Infantry Corps
Honours None for display
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Unit History
Unit Name Start Date End Date
32 Small Ship Squadron (AS 3051 John Monash) 25 Oct 1969 07 Dec 1969 44 DAYS


Peter Pool is not entitled to wear the following medals. He has not been officially awarded them. He has purchased them, paid to have them court mounted, and added them to his genuine 3 medals illegally.

1. Anniversary of National Service Medal.

 

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The Anniversary of National Service 1951–1972 Medal is a commemorative medal awarded to Australians for their service in post-war national service schemes. Wikipedia.

Pool was not an Australian National Serviceman.

2. Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal.

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The Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal was awarded to Australian military personnel for service in South Vietnam during the period 31 July 1962 to 28 March 1973. The requirements for the award are: at least 181 days service, either continuous or aggregated, unless killed on active service (KIA); or wounded in action (includes psychological injury) and evacuated (medically evacuated other than being wounded does not meet requirement for medal); or captured and later released or escaped. Wikipedia.

Pool did not service in the qualifying area for the required 181 days.

ANZMI sent Peter Pool an email to his current email address, and invited him to respond to the fact that he wears the two un-awarded military medals.

He failed to respond.

Peter James Pool is a Medal cheat and an imposter. He has no right to wear them.

Pool is a Director and owner of Australian Specialised Defence Equipment (ASDE), Sydney. This Company has provided equipment, under contract, to the Australian Defence Force. Pool should have more sense than to wear medals that he has not earned.  

He should remove the un-awarded medals immediately, and apologise to the President, Committee, and all his fellow members at the Bundeena RSL Sub Branch in Sydney, for his lack of respect for the Australian Honours System and Defence Force protocols.

 

 

Surname: Joyce
Christian Names: Michael John
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland
City or Town: Redcliffe
Service #: A118447
Service: Royal Austtralian Air Force
Branch: Catering
Case Notes:

 

Michael John Joyce served with RAAF Number 1 Operational Support Unit in Vung Tau Vietnam for 91 days from 16 April 1970 until 15 July 1970 as a Cook. Here is a photograph of Joyce:


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Notice that Joyce is wearing four medals these are:

Australian Active Service Medal
Vietnam Medal
Australian Defence Medal
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (RVCM) - NOT ENTITLED

Joyce has made the mistake of being a cheat involved with the media and had his photograph published in a newspaper. As a result of his need for media fame it has been established that Joyce is not entitled to wear the RVCM because he did not meet the criteria of 181 days service in Vietnam and was not evacuated to Australia as a Battle Casualty. He served for 91 days only.


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Here is the offending medal



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Here is the official criterion for being awarded the medal.


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Here is what Joyce said about the matter:

Dear xxx,
Yes i did not spend the required time in Vietnam And as you know there has at times been eligibility question I was Medivaced home. And subsequently was awarded The medal in question, this would be shown in the appropriate Records that are available to the public. I have previously Discussed this with fellow veterans, and the consensus was That if it was officially awarded then that would be that.

Yours Truly
Mick Joyce.

Wearing the medal on the basis of a consensus of fellow veterans was insufficient authority to attach the medal to his rack.

Like Joyce, most of those caught wearing this medal say "It was issued to them" In most cases that is baloney and it has been purchased by the wearer. Joyce wears four medals, he is entitled to three.

Returned Veterans will not tolerate those who cheat with medals. Being a returned veteran is a status hard won and the awards they receive are sacrosanct.

Herbert Alec Mason, President of a Victorian RSL Sub Branch, was another non battle casualty from Vietnam, who falsely claimed that he was issued with the VCM.

www.anzmi.net/index.php/cheats-thieves/medal-cheats/638-mason 

We thank the genuine veterans and the many others throughout Australia, who through their diligence and observation are striving to preserve our medals protocols and heritage.

Joyce is welcomed to the website for being a medal cheat.

 

Surname: Urban
Christian Names: Barry
Country: Australia
State or Province: Western Australia
City or Town: Darling Range
Service #: Unknown
Service: British Army
Branch: Artillery
Commencement of service: 1985
Completion of service: 1989
Case Notes:

 

Barry URBAN Update May, 2018.

Barry URBAN the former MLA and elected member for Darling Range, Western Australia has resigned his position from the Western Australia State Parliament.

Urban resigned the day before the Western Australia Parliament Procedures and Privileges Committee released its comprehensive report into Urban’s disgraceful behaviour in -;

1. wearing an un-awarded Australian Police Overseas Service Medal,
2. claiming non existent Police service in Bosnia investigating war crimes,
3. claiming non awarded University degrees and College Certificates,
4. forging a University Degree from Leeds University.

The final result is that the Procedures and Privileges Committee recommended that Urban should be expelled from Parliament and that the seat of Darling Range becomes vacant.

The lies and deception by Urban have continued over a long period of time.

It is surprising that Urban, a long time fraud and false pretender, could have deceived so many people for so long.

Had it not been for the due diligence of Journalist Gary Adshead from the West Australian Newspaper and Western Australia retired Police Officers, Urban would still be representing the seat of Darling Range and receiving his $200,000 plus salary per annum. All based on deceit.

His claim to the Cyprus UNIFCYP medal is still being investigated.

He is also currently under investigation by the West Australia Police Fraud Squad for several possible criminal offences committed.

Below are some articles from the West Australian Newspaper, which sum up the demise of former W.A. State MLA Barry Urban.
It all started with Urban’s purchase of an un-entitled Police Overseas Service Medal (POSM) from a Perth Medal Shop and ended with his resignation from Parliament.



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Below is the comprehensive report of the Western Australia Procedures and Privileges Committee.

www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/comm...E/$file/93184449.pdf

ANZMI make no further comment other than to thank the many concerned Western Australia Police Officers, both retired and current, and members of the public who contacted us about Urban. Gary Adshead, Senior Journalist, The West Australian Newspaper, has acted in a most professional manner in the way he has dealt with this complex matter.

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PREFACE:

ANZMI are an impartial group of former Australian and New Zealand Military Veterans. ANZMI is not aligned with any political party in Australia or New Zealand. Our role in the Australian and New Zealand Veteran Communities is to protect the honour of all those men and women, who are currently serving in those Defence Forces, or who have served and or died on War Like, Non War Like, Peacekeeping, or Peacetime deployments.

Our objective is to target and expose those, who claim that they have done the hard yards, and/or boast of non- existent operational service, or wear Australian and New Zealand medals and other accoutrements that have not been awarded to them.

This site lists a multitude of Imposters, including Valour Thieves, Medal Cheats and Wannabees, who, for their own personal glory and benefit, have illegally boasted of operational service, that they have not performed, or worn medals illegally. Both these types of deceitful imposters commit offences against the Australian Defence Act 1903, Sections 80A and 80B.

In New Zealand, the illegal actions of military imposters are covered under of the Military Decorations and Distinctive Badges Act 1918 Section 4A.

Those who wear unearned medals, purchase them from Medal Dealer’s shops, or online.

Their behaviour is unacceptable to all genuine veterans.
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The below photograph depicts Mr Barry Urban. MLA. Barry Urban was born on the 10 December, 1968 in Ashlington. Northumberland, England. He is the current sitting member for the State electorate for Darling Range, Western Australia, near Perth.. He is now an Independent, following his resignation from the Australian Labor Party, following serious questions regarding his integrity and credibility.

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In the above photographs, Urban is wearing -;
1. The Australian Police Overseas Service Medal. (POSM) No clasp.
2. The United Nations Force in Cyprus Medal.(UNFICYP)


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The Police Overseas Service Medal is an award in the Australian honours system. The award is presented to those members of an Australian Police force who undertake service;
• with international peace-keeping organisations, or
• Following a request from another government for assistance.
The award was introduced by letters patent on 25 April 1991.
It comes with a clasp denoting the area of assigned UN deployment.

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The above medal is the United Nations Force in Cyprus Medal. (UNFICYP)
It is awarded: for 3 months' service with the Mission, keeping peace between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Civilian Police or members of any Nation’s Defence Forces, who serve in Cyprus for the qualifying period, are eligible to apply for this medal.

Barry Urban’s life is described below in a Biography that appeared on Face book.

On leaving school, he joined the British Army about 1984, discharged, and then joined the Hertfordshire Constabulary, England.
Biography Face book Barry Urban.
Biography
About Barry Urban

Barry was born in a mining village in the North East of England called Ashington in Northumberland. His mother was a nursing assistant and father was a coal miner until the colliery closed and he made a living selling rose bushes; a casualty of the miners' dispute in the mid 1980s.

His childhood was like that of most children from the area: hard and eventful. After leaving school at the age of 16, Barry joined the British Army. He has obtained a number of qualifications, and spent a large portion of his career on exercises and military operations in Northern Ireland, Cyprus and Namibia, attaining military medals and a citation.

In late 1989 Barry joined the UK police in Hertfordshire after a brief tour in the Ascension Islands. Throughout his police career he spent a number of years on front line duties, Police Tactical firearms and finally as a detective on the Regional Crime Squad.

During his career in the police force Barry obtained a Bachelor Degree and a Post Graduate Degree in police studies.
After returning from duties in Bosnia carrying out war crime investigations, he retired from the UK Police Force and was awarded a police medal and another citation.

After a period of almost 12 months travelling the world Barry found himself in Rockingham, Western Australia, and decided to apply for immigration and was granted a visa and later citizenship.

His first five years in Australia were spent working in the construction industry as a production manager, projects manager then area manager in the Pilbara and Kimberley.

Barry returned to the police force in 2005 and was involved in a number of major initiatives in the South East Metro District and front line policing.

In 2011 he decided to run for Local Government and was elected into the Serpentine Jarrahdale Council. His involvement has been great and vast with involvement in the State Graffiti task force, the State Trails Reference Group, Peel Tourism, National Trust and a number of other community groups.

Barry's time serving on the council verified the lack of support for the South East corridor and the Darling Range area. The frustration over this issue was felt both at home and within the community groups he is involved with, which prompted Barry to run for the seat of Darling Range in the State election and finally give the families living in the area the support they need.
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The above profile has since been removed from his Face book page.

Below is a copy of his LinkedIn profile and also through his maiden speech to the WA Parliament in 2017. -;


Lance Bombadier
Wingate Troop
3RHA J(Sidi Rezegh) Battery
June 1985 - December 1989
Served in Paderborn, Germany
Cyprus
Northern Ireland


Initially, Barry Urban’s life started to unravel following his election to the Western Australian Parliament in March, 2017, as the member for Darling Range. His photograph appeared in a number of published media articles wearing the Australian POSM and the UNFICYP medals.

Obviously, something did not seem right with some former colleagues, who knew that Urban had not served overseas, as a Western Australia Police Officer to Cyprus, in an Australian United Nations contingent, during his 6 years service. It was also obvious that he was not entitled to wear the Australian Police Overseas Service Medal. (POSM), that he had been observed wearing for many years. It could not have been awarded to him as he was not entitled.

On the 18 November, 2017, the following front page article appeared in the “West Australian” News Paper.

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Following the publishing of this article, ANZMI were inundated with emails from concerned former Police, and Military personnel, and also members of the public.

Concerns were expressed regarding Urban’s non credible and conflicting excuses, regarding how he came into possession of the POSM.

He initially claimed that the POSM was a legitimate International Police Award for his British Police service in Bosnia.

That is a lie. It is an Australian award.

He further claimed that the British and Australian Overseas Police Service Medals were exactly the same. That is also a lie.

He stated that he must have been sent the wrong one by the British Police 17 years ago. That is also a lie The British Police/Government does not issue Australian Federal Awards.

In the article, he is quoted as stating, “I will be honest with you, the medal I have is totally different to the one I should have. This was sent to me in 2000, and I have been wearing it ever since. I have written to the UK Police to find out what has gone on”. That statement is also a lie.

The medal that Urban is referring to is the “Commemorative International Police Medal” You can purchase it on line for about UK20 pounds sterling.. ANZMI refer to them as “Tin medals” They are trinkets. If you have to buy a medal, you did not earn it. Simple as that.

Below is the ribbon for the International Police Medal. It is not exactly the same as the POSM as claimed by Urban. In fact, it is nothing like it.

 

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Strangely, a former Australian Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) Major, and now Western Australia Labor Party politician and Housing Minister, Mr Peter Tinley, has been quoted below -;

Housing Minister Peter Tinley — a former Special Air Service Regiment commander — defended Mr. Urban yesterday.
“Let’s be really clear about this, his service is not in question — his administration is,” Mr. Tinley said. “He served in Cyprus, he’s served in Bosnia and he’s given great service. He’s just unfortunately got his administration wrong and applied for or obtained the wrong medal.”

By his own admission, Urban has been wearing this medal fraudulently for 17 years. That is not "wrong administration", Mr Tinley; it is deceitful behaviour over a very long period, by someone who should know a lot better.. It is contemptible to genuine Police and Military personnel who have served in Operational theatres of conflict. You should agree with that.

Urban has subsequently admitted that he purchased the POSM from a Medal dealer in Western Australia.

Since Urban was detected deceitfully wearing the Federal Award, he has taken time off his parliamentary duties on stress leave. He has since stated that he is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

He stated in the W.A Parliament on the 30 November, 2017, about his fraudulent wearing of the POSM -; (Source ABC News)

On the admission he had falsely represented a medal as an official award from British authorities, when he had actually purchased it online,
Mr Urban insisted he was under the "genuine but mistaken" belief that it was the correct medal.
"I am embarrassed by my error and for the hurt I may have caused by my actions," he said.


If you believe that statement, you might also believe in Santa !!!

Urban continues the façade. His claims are totally inconsistent with reality, and are not believable. Just ask his alleged Medal dealer!

He claims British Army military service in Cyprus with the United Nations, as a Lance Bombadier, Artillery. - You do not get awarded an Australian Police Overseas Service Medal for that.

He would know that!

He also claims British Police overseas service in Bosnia-Herzgovina investigating war crimes. – You do not get awarded an Australian Police Overseas Service Medal for that either.

He would know that as well!

Investigations are continuing by an appointed W.A. Parliamentary Committee, regarding his claims of University degrees, allegedly awarded to him in the United Kingdom, and other matters.

He has already admitted to the W.A Parliament that he was not awarded a Diploma that he had previously claimed. Two Universities in the U.K., where Urban claims to have been awarded degrees, have never heard of him.

Also his alleged military service in Cyprus and entitlement to the UNFICYP, and police service in Bosnia-Herzegovina needs to be thoroughly investigated..

He could save a lot of people a lot of trouble, by just proving his claims, and telling the truth about his Army and Police overseas service. If his memory is as bad as what it seems, he could simply order of a copy of his records from the U.K. and produce them.

In fairness, we sent Urban an email inviting him to provide details of his claimed Cyprus service, and evidence that he was entitled to wear the POSM and the UNFICYP. He has not responded.

In the meantime, Urban continues on as the State Member for Darling Range, Western Australia. He has since resigned from the Australian Labor Party, and is now an Independent for that electorate.

He is a false pretender and he should resign.

An update will be provided in the near future regarding Mr. Barry Urban. MLA.

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