Entries with Surname (Title)s starting with 'W'

Surname: Watmore
Christian Names: Allan Geoffrey
Country: Australia
State or Province: South Australia
City or Town: Kilburn
Service #: 315518
Service: Army
Branch: Infantry and Transport
Commencement of service: 12 April 1972
Completion of service: 26 July 1974
Case Notes:

Watmore would have you believe that:
He served for six years in the British Army  before migrating to Australia and that included active service in:
Malaysia Northern Ireland Aden Falklands

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Here is a photo he exhibits wearing a UK uniform complete with bear skin hat..

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He served with the Australian Army in Vietnam and was awarded The Star of Gallantry medal for carrying wounded soldiers to safety even though he was badly wounded himself.

 He served with the elite Australian Special Air Service Regiment (SAS) where he attained the rank of Staff Sergeant  and trained SAS Soldiers.

The truth of his military history is as follows:
When he enlisted into the Australian Army he declared on his Attestation Form that he had never served in the Armed Forces of Australia or any other country

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He enlisted into the Australian Army  on the 12 April 1972. Had he been a UK Veteran who had seen service in Malaya, Northern Ireland, Aden and the Falklands his Recruit and Corps training would have been reduced accordingly, however he spent six months at Recruit and Corps training which is the same period as required for any raw recruit.


After Recruit and Corps Training he served with 3rd Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (3RAR)  at Woodside in South Australian, then for a short period with 6th Battalion Royal Austsralian Regiment (6RAR) which was deployed to Singapore until December 1973. He was reposted to 18 Transport Company on 1 Jan 1974 and was Absent Without Leave from 23 March 1974 until 19 June 1974, then Discharged as a Private Soldier for the reason of being "Unsuited to be a Soldier".

Here is his Discharge Certificate

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Watmore was never anywhere near Vietnam during the war, yet it 1975 we are reliably advised that he had the audacity to apply for  Vietnam Medals from the Department of Honours and Awards, his request of course was denied.  This action shows that he has desired to be seen as a Vietnam Veteran since at least 1975.


Here is what Watmore put on his Facebook page.

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Watmore has earned none of the medals shown on the Blazer, those on the right are false medals from his false UK Service, and those on the left are false medals from his Australian service. He is also falsely wearing the elite Infantry Combat Badge.

The Orange coloured medal above the Australian Medals on his left hand side is the coveted Star of Gallantry which recognises acts of outstanding heroism in action in circumstance of great peril.  The Star of Gallantry was introduced into the Australian honours system on 15 January 1991. 

As Watmore was sacked from the Australian Army in 1974 it is ridiculous for him to claim a medal that was invented in 1991.  Star of Gallantry recipients are shown  here  www.itsanhonour.gov.au/   Watmore is not listed.  Here is more information about the Star of Gallantry

Watmore's claims to have served in the SAS and been a Staff Sergeant are pure lies.

He never rose above the rank of Private and his record indicates that he has not a vestige of the stamina and courage required for what it takes to be an SAS Trooper.

This classic wannabe has been lying and cheating since 1975 about his military service.

He exhibits the characteristics of a pathological liar and therefore he has most likely misrepresented himself in all walks of life.

We suggest to Watmore to crush and  burn the false medals and the blazer, and apologise to all genuine Veterans who have done what Watmore could not do, and that is to serve honourably in the Defence Force.
We call upon all those who know him, to confront him and call him a liar, and to any ex Service organizations he may be a member of,  to cast him out with ignominy.


Watmore, for many years has bathed in the false kudos of being an heroic returned Veteran, now he can fester in the real shame of being an "outed" liar cheat and wannabe.

 
Surname: Watson
Christian Names: Paul
Country: Australia
State or Province: QLD
City or Town: Mackay
Service: Citizen Military Forces
Case Notes:
WATSON Paul

Paul Watson is an enigma. He is not the dribbling drunk at the end of the bar trying to impress with outrageous stories of war time exploits.  He is a sales representative for Detroit Diesel.  He is the Secretary of the North Mackay Bowls Club.  He is described as a very private person who does not tell war stories of boast of daring exploits as depicts many wannabes. 

He is also a liar who is in a position of trust.

On previous years he had marched on ANZAC Day with other veterans but minus the ribbons and medals.  Yet on ANZAC Day 2006 he went to the RSL wearing the Vietnam Medal Ribbon, the Vietnam Campaign Medal Ribbon and what was believed to be the Australian Active Service Medal Ribbon but no medals.  He stood out because of the soiled and bedraggled condition the ribbons were in.  He was asked by other veterans where his medals were and said initially that he had lost them but subsequently changed his story and said that his former wife had his medals.

Veterans who saw Watson were suspicious, mainly because this was the first time he had worn ribbons even though he had previously marched with veterans on ANZAC Day.  Veterans were so suspicious two of them went to see him at his home in Hocken Street, North Mackay and questioned his right to wear service decorations.  He was asked to clarify his service.  Paul Watson told these veterans that he was a member of 17 Battalion, Royal New South Wales Regiment (17RNSWR), Citizen's Military Forces, and had trained at  the Jungle Warfare Training Centre at Canungra (J.T.C) prior to service in Vietnam.  He said that he had been sent to Vietnam on three occasions, six days at a time, where he had been attached to 3 RAR trialling special weapons in the   Mekong Delta.  He said that he was entitled to wear the Vietnam medal.  When asked why he was wearing the other ribbons he refused to answer.  Obviously he had no answer.

ANZMI has perused this mans record of service. From this it was ascertained that he is nothing more than a wannabe, a very poor CMF NCO and a liar.

He did serve with 17 RNSWR, service number 2183836.  He commenced his CMF service on 5 May 1965, was promoted to Corporal on 10 September 1966, promoted to temporary Sergeant on 1 May 1967, re-enlisted for two years on 5 May 1967 and was discharged at his own request on 23 May 1968.

Would this be a person who would be sent on specialist duties to South Vietnam? His attempts as an instructor would indicate not.

He instructed on the CMF Division Recruits Course 5/67.  In the subsequent report on CMF instructors WO's and NCO's in November 1967 he was described as being below average in most areas and only average in others.

His platoon Commander comments, "Has not put sufficient effort into task, somewhat lazy, lacks control of squads, poor bearing".

Company Commander comments, "Appears to need a lot more experience to be capable of holding this rank, possibly too rapid promotion".

Senior Instructor's comments, "This NCO was disappointing and not up to the high standards of most 17 RNSWR NCOs'

Watson was also advised in writing that he must improve or discharge could follow and as we now know, it did soon after.

This man is one poor excuse for a CMF NCO.  Anyone who has ever served with the 17 RNSWR would not be proud that he was once one of their ranks.  Vietnam Veterans should be disgusted that this sorry fellow has stolen their honour.

Paul Watson's record of service shows that he has never served overseas so why would he say that he had? Why would he be stupid enough to tell ex 3 RAR veterans that he had served with 3 RAR in the Delta?

We don't know the answer to those questions and would be pleased if anyone could enlighten us.  We wonder if he has anything else to hide as it would appear that when ever someone tries to take his photograph he appears to move away so it can't be taken.  One thing we do know however, Paul Watson spent a few short years with a CMF unit during a period when many young Australian men were fighting an enemy in another land.  In his CMF role he never did much and never went anywhere and, as indicated by his record of service, was not very good as an NCO in fact he was not even mediocre, he was below average.  This man has worn service decorations he is not entitled to and claimed to be a veteran of the Vietnam conflict.  He has dishonoured real veterans at their day of remembrance, ANZAC Day.  He has also committed serious offences against the Defence Act 1903, namely section 80A, Falsely representing to be a returned servicemen and section 80B, Improper Use of Service Decorations.  Each one of these offences carries a penalty of a fine of $3300.00 and/or 6 months imprisonment.  

ANZMI wrote to Paul Watson giving him the opportunity to provide us with evidence of his service in Vietnam.  We have not received an answer however, an unsigned letter purporting to have been written by Paul Watson was left in the letter box of one of the 3RAR veterans who confronted him on Anzac Day.  This letter was subsequently obtained by ANZMI and it indicates, though the truth of this has not been verified, that Watson was wearing the ribbons of an alleged friend who was killed in action in Vietnam.  The deceased person has immediate relatives who can wear the ribbons on Anzac day and for this reason we will not publish the letter without obtaining express permission from the family so as not to re-kindle bad memories for them. 

Paul Watson, you have no right to wear service decorations nor have you the right to claim warlike service.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

 

Surname: Watson
Christian Names: Geoffrey James
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland
City or Town: Imbil
Case Notes:

Geoffrey James Watson arrived in Imbil, nestled in the peaceful Mary Valley in Queensland's Cooloola Coast hinterland in 1996 and immediately joined the Mary Valley Returned and Services League (R&SL) Sub-branch where he is still a member today. When approached by the previous committee about his reasons for joining he stated that he was transferring from the R&SL in Orange, a town in the regional west New South Wales. Watson was subsequently elected secretary of  the Mary Valley R&SL and due to his position, the pivotal role in the Sub-branch which processes paperwork and checks and balances, no-one it seems took the time to check his transfer from Orange R&SL, nor his service history.

On ANZAC day in 1997 he attended the parade and services wearing the Infantry Combat Badge (ICB), three USA citations, the Australian issued Viet Nam medals and walks/marches  with a limp and a stiff arm; alluding to his numerous wounds  from gunshots and rockets that he suffers from... or perhaps it from the helicopter in which he crashed... or perhaps the ships he was on that were bombed... all these tales of heroism and courage under fire have been visited upon the Veterans of Imbil over the past few years.

He was confronted by  a Viet Nam Veteran  about the ICB, medals and citations that he was wearing because the Veteran noticed that the ICB was being worn upside down, thus drawing his attention to it. In answer to the challenge,  the veteran was told that the ICB was "given" to him by a friend.

Alarm bells started to ring. Normally, the Sub-branch secretary would be informed.

In addition to this story Watson advised members of the R&SL that he had been in a chopper [helicopter] smash in Viet Nam, but to others he told the stories that he had been shot in the head, hands, and knees, however, remarkably he bears no scars from these horrendous wounds, no doubt there may have been divine intervention on that score; as one of his stories relates to how he helped Mother Teresa while she was in Viet Nam!

Watson's flights of fancy don't stop there; as he has told others that he was caught in a bunker that was bombed and was also got bombed while on a ship.

All up it appears that Imbil's Mr Watson has seen more action than Audie Murphy, the free world's most decorated War Veteran, which brings us to the point where this most-wounded person also states that he served in the United States Merchant Navy; he has given the service number 1793233R as his.   

Watson's claims in the US Merchant Marine are currently under investigation through our US counterparts. The result of which, no doubt, will prove as false as all his other claims to service and being wounded in action.   

It should be noted here that a serviceman's number is unique and will only ever be issued to one individua thereby making it quite easy to check on a service record through the stated country's service personnel files. These results will be placed on the site as soon as known.

Since being confronted about wearing the ICB upside down, Watson has not marched with the R&SL. Is this because he is afraid to put the medals on again, knowing it is a federal offence to do so if he is NOT the recipient of these awards? or has his courage under fire failed him in far easier peacetime pursuits?

A good Veteran impersonator would have at least studied the bogus medals he chose to wear and would ensure he had them on in the right order and worn the right way up. That way he would  ensure he did not incur the wrath of a angry old Warrant Officer or some other sharp-eyed ex-service person as also happened in the case of Marks, the RAAF impostor on another page of this site. One would also assume that a good impostor, who chose to say he was a serviceman in the US forces, would at least wear US medals and not Australian-awarded ones.    

Watson has also "advised" those that have confronted or questioned his service, that he will sue or take the said person to the "anti discrimination board", or the CJC (Queensland's Criminal Justice Commission) neither have jurisdiction in this area, and that makes him quite laughable and lowers his credibility even further.  

Watson is not easily dissuaded from his chosen role as a warrior, as it now seems that even though he is no longer the secretary of the R&SL, he still attends and spreads his tales of valour and heroism to any one that will listen, particularly at the Imbil Bowls Club on Friday evenings where he attends with his wife and entertains the bowls community with his warries and stories of bravado in battle to anyone foolish enough to listen.    

The Veteran community of Imbil have had enough of this "war hero's" lies and tall stories and contacted the team at CPMH who have since conducted a thorough investigation in Australia (and have launched an investigation in the US) confirming that Geoffrey James Watson is just like all the other imposters on this site. An Australian military check of his so called service details through Defence have come up blank.  A check of the Viet Nam Veterans Nominal Roll produced the same. A CPMH team member from Orange, NSW (The team has members everywhere there are genuine Veterans) approached and spoke to the following people and organisations from that town;

  • The Secretary/Manager of the Ex Services Club,

  • The Naval Association,

  • The R&SL, and the

  • Armoured Corps Association of Orange.   

All of the aforesaid organisations have never heard of the bogus war hero G. J. Watson. Sufficient checks of Defence and Ex Service organisations have been conducted to declare that this person is just another impostor breaking a federal law by impersonating the brave men and women who have fought under the flag of this great nation.   

The results of the US service check so far have also drawn a blank. It is not expected that this situation will change.

Post Script: Further advice has been received at CPMH that Watson was photographed wearing medals at a memorial service in Orange.  The details of this are currently being sought from the source in Orange and will be posted when received.

At the time of writing the US search of personal files cannot locate a 1793233R Geoffrey James Watson on any data base connected with  Merchant Marines or Military personnel.

Naturally (as is the case with every impostor uncovered by CPMH), Watson is invited to produce his unaltered service documents and award certificates for his United States Citations and service in the United States Merchant Marines.

Until such time as he does this all information from the records of both Australia and the United States held by CPMH confirms he is a fraud and has never served in their armed forces in any theatre of war.

Following this investigation, Watson has resigned his membership of the R&SL, and his name has been struck off the Sub-branch roll.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Watson
Christian Names: Dean
Country: Australia
State or Province: South Australia
City or Town: Port Elliot
Service #: Unknown
Service: Royal Australian Naval Reserve
Branch: Seaman
Commencement of service: 1966
Completion of service: Unknown
Case Notes:

 

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Dean Watson is the President of the Port Elliot RSL Sub-Branch in South Australia.

The above photograph was taken on ANZAC Day 2016, just one of many taken over the years, where Watson has been wearing the following:

1.       Australian Service Medal 1945-75.

2.       Reserve Force Decoration.

3.       National Medal

4.       Australian Defence Medal.

5.       FESR Commemorative Medal (unofficial ‘junk’ medal).

Watson served for many years as an officer in the Royal Australian Naval Reserve (RANR) and retired with the rank of Lieutenant Commander.

Watson did, however, serve a short period of continuous service in 1966, when he was part of the officer complement on the survey vessel HMAS Diamantina.

It is this period of sea service that underpins this particular case and clearly evidences that, apart from Watson wearing an unofficial medal, he also has no entitlement to be wearing the ASM 1945-75.

Watson was contacted regarding his entitlement to the ASM 1945-75, and provided the following response:

“I was a Reservist on full time service during 1966 on HMAS Diamantina. Subsequently, I found out that it had been attached to FESR while carrying out oceanographic work Up Top in the second half of the year.

I assume everyone in the ship in that period would have qualified for the ASM 45-75 if they had not already or later qualified in other ships”.

All of HMA Ships supply a monthly report to Naval Headquarters, listing significant events in the day-to-day operation of each vessel. These are known as a Report of Proceedings (ROPs) and are available for the public to access on the Australian War Memorial website. These reports go on to make a lasting history of our Australian Navy and its’ involvement in all conflicts up to, and including, Vietnam.

The ROPs for Diamantina, for the period August to November 1966, were examined and relevant entries, regarding ships’ location, are as follows:

August

2                  Set sail for Christmas Island

3 to 10          Surveys conducted off Christmas Island

10                Crossed Australian Station limit CHOPPED to COMFEF

12 to 24        Singapore, Scientific Operation MONSEA

25 to 29        Singapore

29                Sail to commence OP MONSEA in South China Sea

September

1 to 11          Trials between Hong Kong and Singapore

12 to 13        Subic Bay

14                Gulf of Lingayen

22 to 30        Hong Kong

October

1 to 6            Hong Kong

7 to 17          South China Sea surveys

18 to 22        Singapore

23 to 31        OP MONSEA

November

1 to 5            OP MONSEA

7 to 8            Singapore and slip at 1600h

8                  Sail for Fremantle

15 to 30        Alongside Fremantle for refit

Nowhere in the ROPs is Diamantina recorded as being assigned to FESR as part of the Australian Far East Fleet. The entry on 10 August 1966, “CHOPPED to COMFEF” however, could give rise to the mistaken belief of the crew that the ship was performing duties as part of the FESR. COMFEF refers to ‘Commander, Far East Fleet’.

Confirmation has been received from the Navy Historical Unit in Canberra, confirming Diamantina was never attached to FESR. In relation to the reference ‘CHOPPED to COMFEF’, this indicates signal handling procedures in that all signal traffic for Diamantina came under the distribution list of COMFEF for as long as the vessel was in that area.

Watson was again contacted, this time with the new information, and the following response was received:

“When I became aware of the FESR award, I applied to Defence Honours and Awards stating my period in the ship and much later received the medal. Consequently, I am unaware of the exact period the ship was attached to FESR. There would have been a CHOP signal after the ship sailed from Singapore for Fremantle in late October/early November, but I am unaware of it”.

The involvement of the ADF, be it Navy, Army or Airforce, during the ‘Indonesian Confrontation’ has been a very contentious issue, specifically in the determination of type of service rendered – ‘warlike’, ‘non-warlike’ or ‘peacetime service’ and the appropriate entitlements for each type of service.

In 1999, a review examined possible anomalies in service entitlements, affecting members of the ADF who served in South-East Asia during the period 1955-75. The review was chaired by Major General R.F. Mohr, the final report, at 176 pages, became known as ‘The Mohr Report’.

The following extract from this report concerns Diamantina:

During the review there had been a number of enquiries regarding the involvement of Diamantina in the Indonesian Confrontation and the FESR in general.

Submissions argued that Diamantina served in the South-East Asian region, including in areas of conflict, and that its crew’s service should therefore be recognised as qualifying service. Submissions added that the fact that personnel serving with the ship were not allotted for service as part of a conflict should not disqualify them from having their service recognised as qualifying service.

The review thoroughly investigated the service of Diamantina and determined that the ship, although it entered the operational area, did not have a mission to pursue military objectives in connection with Confrontation. There was no evidence to suggest that Diamantina had active rules of engagement allowing the use of lethal force or that the level of threat was such that there was an expectation of casualties. Given the similar circumstances of HMAS Moresby, it was concluded that these two ships did not render warlike service in connection with confrontation. Moreover, as the roles of Diamantina and Moresby were to conduct scientific research and surveying respectively, it was concluded that the classification of ‘non-warlike’ service under the VEA would not be appropriate.

In summary: HMAS Diamantina was not involved in the Confrontation, nor was it ever allotted for duty with the FESR, therefore the crew would not be entitled to the award of the AASM 1945-75 (with clasp MALAYA) or the ASM 1945-75 (with clasp FESR).

In 2003, this was further confirmed in the Review of Veterans Entitlements – Department of Veterans Affairs.

 

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 Once again, Watson was contacted, with the suggestion, he may have been awarded the ASM 1945-75 in error. Watson was also asked if an official letter was received and were his service details engraved on the edge of the medal.

Watson replied:

“I received the ASM with FESR clasp accompanied by SOM, DNPS(M) letter through MHQ advising the Governor General had approved the award”.

Watson did not respond to the question why a man of his experience would be wearing a commemorative medal alongside official medals. One would assume that an ex-serviceman, RSL Sub-Branch President and former Secretary of the Naval Association of Australia, would be well aware of medal protocol.

Dean Watson, the evidence is overwhelming – you do not have an entitlement to the ASM 1945-75, for your service in 1966 onboard Diamantina and have now earnt the award of appearing on the ANZMI site.

Surname: Waugh
Christian Names: Peter Ross
Country: Australia
State or Province: NSW
City or Town: Taree
Service: Army
Branch: Infantry
Case Notes:

Peter "Muddy" Waugh

Below are the documents that got Peter "Muddy" Waugh into "hot water" with just about everybody in the veteran community, especially the 8th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment Association and the Royal Australian Engineer's, "Tunnel Rats" Association. 

 

Muddy claims in his "story" that, he;

Spent lots of time in choppers.

Spent lots of time in the bush

Remembers too many contacts

Was 300 metres down a tunnel when his light went out

Still trembles when the lights go out.

Set off a trip wire and was wounded in action with a "gut full of scrap"

We are reliably advised that at a recent Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) Post Traumatic Stress Disorder course Waugh related to others on the course that:

He served Fourteen months in South Vietnam.

Was an M60 Machine Gunner for Six months

Was a Forward Scout.

Was a "Tunnel Rat"

Stepped on a 500lb bomb booby trap and lived to tell the tale.

Another veteran told us that Waugh had told him:

"He'd been down tunnels and was blind in one eye from shrapnel, he also stated that he had served in D Company of the 8th Battalion"

Another good one is; 

"He said he was awarded a Military Medal whilst serving with 8RAR, when asked for details about this he said, sorry I don't like to talk about it"

Waugh recently went on a "return to Vietnam" tour with the Taree VVA. In a hotel in Saigon in June 2007 he again claimed to a group of veterans that  "He had gone down tunnels".

There are too many lies listed to refute one by one, so let's just be kind and say that most of Waugh's utterings are "fantasy". Waugh said in his Taree VVA article. "Brief recollections of most which according to my Psych (sic) I have buried somewhere in my head"  These recollections are not buried, they are just not there - never having happened. We hope that Waugh hasn't told his "Psych" all of these stories in his bid to gain the benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs, that he currently enjoys, because that would be fraud.

We have acquired Waugh's service file from the National Australia Archives through Freedom of Information Legislation. His service was typical of many thousands of National Servicemen from the Vietnam era.         

He was enlisted into the Army as a National Serviceman on the  1 Oct 1969.   After recruit and further training he was allocated to the Royal Australian Infantry Corps and posted to the 1st Army Reinforcement Unit (1ARU) in Vietnam on the 15th Jul 1970, where he stayed until 13th August 1970. He was then posted to 8th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (8 RAR) on the 14th August 1970, where he remained until the 4th October 1970 - a total of fifty two days with the Battalion.  He then returned to 1 ARU where he spent half of his time on Field Punishment and in Detention. On 14th January 1971 he was posted to 1st Australian Logistic Support Group (1ALSG) until his return to Australia on 8 July 1971.

What were his duties at each unit?

1st Australian Reinforcement Unit (1 ARU) at Nui Dat. Infantry reinforcements from Australia were posted to 1 ARU.  Waugh spent about a month doing assimilation and training in preparation for posting to 8th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment.

8th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment.  He was with 8th Battalion for only fifty two days. During this time, he worked with both C Company and Administration Company. We are reliably advised that most of his time with the Battalion was spent running the Company Bar and he also painted the bar with the Ettamogah Pub motif (as shown in the Taree booklet). 

1ARU.  Ordinarily  he would have been reallocated to the incoming Battalion, however, 8RAR was not replaced so he spent one hundred days at 1 ARU of which Forty Nine were spent under punishment.

HQ 1ALSG. He did not return to a Battalion but was posted to HQ 1ALSG Located at Vung Tau, it was the Logistic Support Headquarters for Australian Forces in Vietnam.

Apart from his forty nine days of field punishment and detention, Waugh served honourably and usefully in Vietnam and should be enjoying the honest company of his good friends, however he has been deserted because those who served with him know that he has lied about his service.

Following the story in The Manning River Times, numerous protests were lodged to the newspaper, resulting in a meeting between the Editor, aggrieved veterans and members of the Taree VVA

The meeting resolved nothing, Taree VVA executives strongly defending Waugh.

The President of the Taree VVA, Mr Richard A Albert , who is a genuine Vietnam veteran, claims to have been unable to detect that Waugh was lying  and followed up the meeting by placing the following rebuttal in the local newspaper, we suggest he had help from their well known legal adviser.

An Infantry veteran sent a letter to the Editor of The Manning River Times in response to Richard Albert's rebuttal, below is what he said.

The 8 RAR Association were not amused about Waugh's version of his service history with 8 RAR in Vietnam and wrote him the letter shown below:

Waugh had no need to exaggerate his war service and it seems that until he joined the nefarious Taree VVA he was never in trouble.  We don't know why Muddy developed the need to lie about his Vietnam service, there could be many reasons, among which is the creation of "stories" to convince his "Psych" and The Department of Veterans Affairs that he has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Who knows?

Waugh may not have been brought to account for his damn lies, had he ceased telling them and apologised at an early stage and got on with life, however, he insists that everything he has said are "true blue" war stories.

Although Waugh is a genuine veteran who spent a year in Vietnam his recollection of his personal history in Vietnam, which he freely published, are just damn lies. Veterans who did the hard yards with 8RAR and other combat units, especially those who served as Tunnel Rats will not allow veteran wannabes like Waugh to get away with deceitful self aggrandisement.

Waugh 

Did not spend lots of time in choppers.

Did not spend lots of time in the bush .

Cannot remember too many contacts, because he was not involved.

Was never 300 metres down a tunnel when his light went out.

Is lying when he says he trembles when the lights go out (In relation to going down tunnels.)

Did not set off a trip wire and was wounded in action with a "gut full of scrap".

Never served fourteen months in South Vietnam.

Was not an M60 Machine Gunner for Six months

Was not a Forward Scout.

Was not a "Tunnel Rat".

Never stepped on a 500lb bomb booby trap and lived to tell the tale.

Was not blinded in one eye from shrapnel.

Was never awarded a Military Medal whilst serving with 8RAR.

Waugh published and has stated false recollections for the purpose of self adulation and perhaps to support claims for benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs.

 At ANZMI it is part of our charter to make sure that personal histories are honest and respectful of their fellow veterans and the units they served in.

Footnotes - Warning 1: Veterans who have told lies to gain the Special Rate of compensation (TPI) and DVA investigate them, could finish up in court, just as other wannabes have.  The maximum penalty for this criminal act includes gaol.  Even if it is a lessor penalty, the veteran will be convicted of a crime and that means a permanent criminal record.  Who wants one of these?  This should ring alarm bells for those who have already obtained DVA benefits via  false reports and sound a warning to those who are contemplating such actions.  Who could face their families after being convicted in court on criminal charges that would reveal the lies the families heard and believed over the years? Imagine the shame.

Warning 2.   Again the Taree Vietnam Veterans Association has come under scrutiny because of dishonesty by a member. There are people involved with that organisation who are proven frauds and liars. We would suggest to honest veterans that in the interest of retaining their integrity they avoid involvement in the Taree VVA.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

 

Surname: Weathall
Christian Names: Robin
Country: Australia
State or Province: Unknown
City or Town: Unknown
Case Notes:

As a Brigadier with post nominal's, MC. BS. LM.  he was Commandant of the Command of the America's under the banner of the Independent Overseas Command (IOC), affiliated with the Legion in 2002.


Later in the year he became LTGEN Weatherall, MC. LOF. amm. Commandant General of the Independent Overseas Command.  We note that his post nominal's changed in this period, he lost the BS, LM and picked up an amm somewhere along the line, this is the Australian Medal of Merit, a Frontiersmen award.


More recently his name had appeared with only these post nominal's, MC, IOC.
He wears bogus awards on his lengthy medal bar and the first is the British Military Cross.


His dream travel destination is Vietnam, “Where I served for three tours during the Vietnam war”.

Like the majority of wannabes from any country, he chose to present himself as a former member of an elite unit. He actually went so far as to choose two elite units and an association with another.

A three tour, former British SAS soldier, who was attached to 1st Special Forces in Vietnam and what would have to have been the Australian Army Training Team Vietnam (AATTV), he also claimed he won the British Military Cross in Borneo or Vietnam. No he wasn’t and no he didn’t.

Let us be quite clear on one thing from the outset, we are not attempting to denigrate the purpose of, or work done by, the Legion of Frontiersmen.

We have absolutely no reason to denigrate the services supplied to whatever community by well-meaning members of this organisation but according to our charter we have a dedication to the ex-Service Communities of Australia and New Zealand to expose those who attempt to steal the Honour and Valour of our comrades in arms.

It has been reported that there are individuals within this organisation, both here in Australia and overseas, who misrepresent or have invented their Military Service.

Here we will expose an impostor, who, while he perpetuated his fraud in the US, has claimed War Service with an elite Australian unit.  We will also highlight another Legion of Frontiersmen member who has already appeared on our “Cases” page. There is a long history of organisations using actual highly decorated War Veterans and also big-talking wannabes as drawcards to increase membership.

This was the URL for the Legion of Frontiersmen in the US, http://www.legion-of-frontiersmen.org but it was removed from public view in July 2004 after a genuine War Veteran queried Weatherall’s service claims and medal rack.

This is a reply received by the Veteran.

Lieutenant-General Robin Weatherall, MC, LOF.  Robin does indeed have the Military Cross.  He serviced with the 21 SAS and got it in Borneo.  This is confirmed on the British Military website...but they will not comment on the citation as SAS do not have their citations published...only that they have them.

Robin was further seconded to the Australian Army and subsequently the US Army in Viet Nam.  His records are well documented.

Now, this reply above is clearly not from a Military historian, or even anyone who rose above the rank of Recruit in any Army, it is clearly from a perennial civilian.   This gentleman and his fellow members had been deceived by Weatherall.  The post nominal LOF stands for Legion Of Frontiersmen, we don’t think this membership rates a post nominal, neither does membership of the IOC.

Unfortunately we couldn’t find the British Military website that confirms this Military Cross awarded for service in Borneo but we found historical information that denies it, and Weatherall’s claimed service, emphatically.

He was born on 5 July 1942and claims War Service as a Captain in the SAS prior to 2 March 1962. (Do the maths)

If we look at this supposed sequence of events, SAS Borneo, seconded to the Aust Army and then the US Army in Vietnam, Robin had to be an extremely young Officer to have accomplished this, not yet 20 years of age.

Firstly Borneo, British 21 SAS soldiers did not serve there as a unit or sub-unit and there was no Officer by this name who ever served in Borneo with the SAS, neither British nor Australian.

Secondly, the time frame suggests he would have served with the AATTV in Vietnam, which he did not.

Lastly, the well documented records mentioned in the reply above don’t appear to be in evidence anywhere. There are no official records of Weatherall having served in any Army. We are quite aware of the role played by 21 SAS in the overall scheme of things in the British Army but unfortunately we can’t pass this on here.

Here’s the citation for bravery he presented to his friends and supporters in the Legion of Frontiersmen. The blacked out line at the top probably contained the name of his “Unit within the Regiment” that he had typed but “the Secrecy Act” forbade him to disclose. We have re-typed it verbatim for clarity and the original photocopy copy is available below.

Weatherall Robin J.

 

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX on attachment to 1st Special Forces, MAAG.

 Place and Date.  Trung Luong, Republic of Vietnam, 2 March 1962.

 Born 5 July, 1942, London.

 Citation.

For conspicuous gallantry in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Captain Weatherall

distinguished himself in action while leading his Team on a search and destroy in an area made particularly

hazardous as it was behind enemy lines. Suddenly his Team came under small arms, automatic weapons, mortar and rocket propelled grenade fire, from a battalion size enemy unit. During the initial hostile attack, communication with Headquarters was lost and the 3 members of the team and the 2 Green Beret observers became casualties. When Capt. Weatherall observed that they were pinned down, he moved to the front with complete disregard for his safety, firing his weapon at the charging enemy. As he moved forward he drew fire on his own position and was seriously wounded in the leg. As the hostile fire intensified Capt Weatherall initiated the evacuation of his dead comrades while providing covering fire. He killed several enemy soldiers but sustained another leg wound when his weapon was destroyed by incoming rounds. Undaunted, he crawled through a hail of enemy fire to an operable machine gun in order to continue the defense of the evacuation. Capt. Weatherall maintained this position, refused medical assistance, and provided defensive fire for his comrades until the bodies had been safely removed to the waiting Helicopter. He was solely responsible for killing 16 enemy soldiers while saving the lives of the rescue unit. Captain Weatherall’s gallantry and extraordinary heroism were in keeping with the highest traditions of his Regiment and reflect great credit on himself, his unit, and the British Army.

 (Unsigned)
 


 

This would be the clumsiest, most amateurish, childlike, attempt at a forgery of a Military document we have ever seen and anyone with a Military background should have dismissed it as garbage as soon as it was presented.  Why was it accepted by his Frontiersmen colleagues?

A four member SAS Team and two Green Beret observers on a search and destroy operation behind enemy lines?   This information alone is sufficient to brand the document a forgery and if this wasn’t such a serious crime to commit, it would be laughable.  His terminology is completely wrong indicating that he’d never been in the British or any other Military.

If Weatherall had supposedly won the Military Cross in Borneo prior to this event, what could have been awarded for this valorous service?  It was otherwise stated that this action in Vietnam earned him the Military Cross and the other medals on his chest.   His MC won in Borneo or Vietnam?   The tangled web is getting confusing isn’t it?

We managed to find some villages named Trung Luong and there are 5 of them, the 4 most notable being in the Chu Prong, Ia Drang,area where it’s very doubtful that Brit SAS search and destroy teams patrolled with Green Beret observers.  Besides that, Brit SAS did not operate in Vietnam.   We think he found this name on a 101st Airborne website, they were in the area in 1966 and we found the website too.   The fifth Trung Luong is just south of Hanoi and we trust it isn’t this one he thinks he was at.

If we look at British SAS service in Borneo, it did not begin until 1963so wenaturallywonderedhow Weatherall could have been awarded the Military Cross for service in Borneo and then go to Vietnam to receive a citation for some mysterious award in 1962.   Perhaps someone else picked up on this as well and that’s why the citation appeared, moving the valorous actions to another country.

Remember that Weatherall was born on 5 July 1942 so on 2 March 62 he was 19 years and 8 months old.   A Captain in the British SAS at this age?   Impossible. He should have checked the minimum age for Officers graduating from Military College and then completing SAS training.

Here’s something that denies his claims and forged documents.
 


 

Here are the miniature medals worn by Weatherall on Frontiersmen ceremonial occasions.
 


 

If we look closely at these miniature medals, we see:

British (Empirical) Military Cross.   Fact.  Weatherall was not awarded the Military Cross.

British (Empirical) General Service Medal with clasps Northern Ireland, Vietnam and Borneo.  Facts.  The General Service Medal was not issued without a bar or clasp and the clasp “Vietnam” was issued only to members of the Australian Army.   Weatherall was not in the Australian Army.  Northern Ireland?   Make up your own minds about this one.

US Legion of Merit (4th Degree,Legionnaire).  Fact.   First US decoration to be awarded to citizens of other countries.

US Bronze Star with “V” for Valour device.  Fact.  Was awarded to US and non-US personnel.

US Purple Heart with nothing to indicate subsequent woundings.  Fact.  Awarded to US and non-US personnel.

US National Defense Medal.  Fact.  Awarded to US Military personnel only, for service during a time of war or conflict.

Vietnam Service Medal.  Fact. Awarded to US Military personnel only, for participating in, or in direct support of, Military operations between 3 July 65 and 28 March 73.

Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Palm.  Fact.  Also known as the Gallantry Cross. Awarded to US and non-US personnel.

Vietnamese Campaign Medal (US issue)with nothing to indicate three tours.  Fact.  This style of medal only awarded to US personnel and some Australian troops who served prior to 1965.

Order of the Sphinx.  Fact.  The Order of the Sphinx which is the Inter-allied Distinguished Service Cross awarded to US personnel, usually CIA, for serving the Allied cause for freedom behind enemy lines. Oh, dear me..

Also a yet unidentified medal with a knights helmet in the centre which doesn’t appear to be a Frontiersmen award or anything else, mere fluff and not worth the time or trouble to pursue the supposed meaning of.

He has been sighted wearing “SAS Wings” as well. Whether this was para wings or the winged dagger is yet to be confirmed. 

 

Weatherall’s incorrect use of Military terminology and his feeble attempt at citation writing would indicate that he has never dragged on a boot in the service of any country.   We daresay he never even buckled up a Boy Scout’s belt as did a previous Frontiersman, Lord Baden-Powell, the hero of Mafekingand founder of the Scouting movement.

We have sufficient recorded and reported evidence to confirm that Weatherall is a Military wannabe who has used his claims of valorous service and forged documents to enhance his status worldwidefor either personal or monetary gain.

Anyone who may be so inclined should check the rest of the information provided in his radio station bio as well as it is not uncommon for immigrants to re-invent their previous lives and qualifications. We have uncovered one aspect of his written history as being false. Is there more?

Weatherall radio station bio here.

There is a certain FBI Agent by the name of Thomas A. Cottone Jnr who may be very interested in Mr. Weatherall.

Here’s part of an article written after Mr Cottone’s latest bust.

News stories about Cottone’s work and that of Mitchell Paige, a former Leatherneck who chased Medal of Honor fakers for four decades until his death this year, have motivated legions of veterans and service members to review the heroism claims of hundreds of civilians, soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.
[Cut and paste this link below in another browser or it will take you away from the site]

 http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=73770&ran=210436

LTGENWeatherall’s claims to glory and the decorations he wears are hopefully something that Agent Cottone will take into consideration. Others have duly noted these and have acted accordingly.

With effect 17 July 2004, Weatherall and his Chief of Staff have nothing more to do with the International Overseas Command of the Legion of Frontiersmen.   As of Sunday 15 August 04 the Frontiersmen website was again available for public view and we see that there is a new Lieutenant General at the helm. Actually he’s a previous Commandant General who has returned to the fore, Weatherall was his Chief of Staff in 2002-03.

Now we’d like to perhaps re-acquaint you with another fraud who appeared in our Cases file some time ago.

He is William “Tony” Ponting who is also a member of the Legion of Frontiersmen, albeit an Australian connection called, “The British Gunner’s Association of Australia”.   Have a look at William “Tony” Ponting’s entry on the Cases page and especially read the British Naval and Military Research information by clicking on the hyperlink.

“Captain Tony’s”  Legion post nominals are MC, VMSM  (RHA Rtd) KGOT (Scot) GCdO, LCM, AMM, PNR, LESM.

He wears the following awards, Military Cross, Mentioned in Despatches (2), US Purple Heart and others when in actual fact he is only entitled to the General Service Medal with clasp Palestine which he earned as a Lance Bombardier (Artillery) enlisting after WW11.

Meet the good Captain Ponting by returning to our cases main page.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

 

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