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Surname: McTernan
Christian Names: Paul John (aka Leigh Paul)
Country: Australia
State or Province: NSW
City or Town: Safety Beach
Service #: 324509
Service: Army
Branch: Infantry
Commencement of service: Aug 81
Completion of service: Dec 84
Case Notes:

 

 

 

Paul John McTernan, JP is a very special individual. His Modus Operandi is deception, innuendo, inferences and never admitting to anything. In fact, his favourite saying is “I never said that…!” McTernan likes to think he can outsmart anyone who questions him about his military history. However, we here at ANZMI are far smarter than the average bear and we have proven that McTernan is a liar, a cheat and a wannabe all rolled into one portly little package!

McTernan is a Welfare Officer and a DVA Advocate for those ex-serving members and veterans who wish to make a claim for an injury incurred during their service. This is ANOTHER example of a fraud, a cheat and a liar making his way into a respected position within a Sub Branch. When are Sub Branches going to start doing background checks on ex-serving members and veterans applying for membership with the RSL? This is the only way of avoiding embarrassing situations such as McTernan.

McTernan has made claims to have had prior service as a Trooper with 2 Commando Company in the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Claims which he supported in his application to join the Woolgoolga RSL Sub Branch. Here is his application….


It all seemed fairly straight forward until it came to light that McTernan had also claimed to have been an Infantry soldier in 6th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment in the early 1980’s. This is where McTernan came unstuck. Why you ask? Unless McTernan has an identical twin, he could not possibly have served in two places, in two different countries, at the same time.

According to our friends in the Rhodesian Services Association, no one by the name of McTernan ever served with 2 Commando Company in the Rhodesian Light Infantry, or within the Rhodesian Army for that matter. Furthermore, McTernan claimed on his application to join the RSL to have served in the Rhodesian Army from 1 December 1980 to 4 December 1994. McTernan should have studied geography a bit more before completing the application because Rhodesia became Zimbabwe in April 1980, eight months prior to his claims to have enlisted in the (disbanded) Rhodesian Army.

To make matters worse for McTernan, there’s absolutely no way he could have been awarded the three medals he listed on his application. These medals are:

The Rhodesia Medal,
The Rhodesian General Service Medal, and
The Zimbabwe Independence Medal.

The reason is quite simple – McTernan had never served in the Rhodesian or the Zimbabwe Army.

Interestingly, on his application for entry into the Australian Army (dated 18/8/81), McTernan ticked ‘NO’ to question 31: “Have you ever served in any armed force?” Even he admits to have never served in the Rhodesian Army. Furthermore, on the same application McTernan details his employment history. This history also covers the period he claimed to have been in the Rhodesian Army. Here is a copy of McTernan’s application to join the Army. Take note of Question 31 (it’s a little blurred) and his Employment Particulars:

More proof McTernan is a fraud, a liar, a cheat and a wannabe!

A point to note is that no one has ever seen McTernan wear his “Rhodesian” medals. It has been noted however, that when McTernan is seen on ANZAC Day or Rememberance Day and asked why he isn’t wearing his medals, he has responded with “I don’t need to wear my medals to prove my service” (or words to that effect). In fact, McTernan is only authorised to wear the Australian Defence Medal (ADM) for his service with the Australian Army.

McTernan served for just three years as a self-described "baggy-arsed" Infantry soldier with (the then) 2/4 Battalion, the Royal Australian Regiment and never deployed on operations overseas. Interestingly, on McTernan’s application to join the RSL, he claimed to have been deployed to Somalia under the UN sanctioned United Task Force (UNITAF). This US led operation was conducted in 1992 – nine years AFTER McTernan discharged from the Australian Army. To make sure it was beyond reasonable doubt a search of the Nominal Roll for all Australian Defence personnel who deployed to Somalia concluded that no one by the name of McTernan was ever deployed to Somalia.

And if you thought the hole McTernan was digging for himself was deep enough, think again…..

Technology, in particular Social Media, is a wonderful thing to keep in touch with family and friends. But, for those who wish to “embellish” their standing within their peer group and within the community, it can be a very effective tool, but one that can easily bite you squarely on the backside. McTernan regularly likes to post photos on his Facebook page depicting “soldiers” going about their everyday routine. Remember though, McTernan is a master of innuendo and inference. He never put his name to a photo that showed members of either the Rhodesian or Australian Special Forces. He never used the words “me”, “I”, “us” or “we”, instead adding comments like “On patrol with 3 CDO…..”. An excellent example is the following photo:

This photo is not the original photo that McTernan had posted on his Facebook page. He has since removed it when questions arose about its authenticity. The caption he had attached to the photo was “on patrol with Rhodesian army 3 commando operation repulse 1979”. He never said it was him in the photo, but he ‘inferred’ it was him. A friend of McTernan’s asked the following question:

XXXX: On patrol with Rhodesian special air service 1979? Photo

Paul McTernan: I was never on patrol with the Rhodesian Special Air Service in 1979. The only thing I posted up was photos of the Rhodesian Army!

XXXX: Ok I accept that, I read it wrong it said on patrol with Rhodesian army 3 commando operation repulse 1979. Some of my close friends asked me as well, not the ones who argued with you.

XXXX: I shall get back to you, but when you did all your recruiting for site you also asked some of my friends who served in SAS, they asked me if I knew you.

XXXX: I did not serve in SAS,I taught them on SAS patrol medic courses. You will also find one of my friends up until recently was high in the RSL retiring as a Colonel. That is why I asked if you had taken it further, with RSL

Paul McTernan: Not a problem XXXX, I was just a baggy arse infantryman in the Australian Regular Army and proud of it. I had nothing to do with the Australian or Rhodesian SAS. Kind regards

This is a perfect example of McTernan’s ability to ‘infer’ he is the person in the photo and was with the Rhodesian Special Forces. But, whenever questions are asked, he simply resorts to his classic and well-rehearsed response of “I never said that”.

Interestingly, the photo of the soldier was part of a photo shoot in 2011 and the weapon being carried by the soldier is an airsoft FN paintball gun. This is another example of McTernan trying to pass himself off as someone he never was. McTernan also made a comment about ANZMI on his Facebook page:

"They are anonymous cowards who make unsubstantiated allegations".

When ANZMI quizzed McTernan about the statement he had made, he asked where that statement had come from. We couldn’t direct McTernan to the location of the quote, because he had deleted it from his Facebook page.

Also on his Facebook page is this photograph:

McTernan was asked by one of his friends…

XXXX “Where was that photo taken mate?”

McTernan “Over in the west mate”

The vehicle in the photograph is a modified Unimog used by the SASR at that time (1980’s – 1990’s). Once again, McTernan is INFERRING he had a relationship with SASR, but never confirms or denies it. He also has another photograph of himself on his Facebook page:

In this photograph McTernan is holding a Heckler and Koch MP5 9mm sub-machine gun. This weapon is primarily used by police and Special Forces personnel world-wide. McTernan is also sporting a blue polo shirt embossed with “Australian Defence Training Academy”. Again, McTernan is inferring he has a relationship with Special Forces or Special Operations of some kind. He is not, and never has been, involved in Special Forces or Special Operations, either military or civilian, whatsoever.

McTernan also likes to vent his frustrations through the media. We already know he’s quite active on his Facebook page, but he also like to put his 10 cents worth through the local newspapers. McTernan has voiced his opinion many times through Letters to the Editor, but this one stands out the most:

In the very first sentence McTernan states:

“As a former soldier who has fought on the battlefield and has also witnessed first-hand the horrors of war…”

Looking at McTernan’s military history, it’s easy to conclude that the closest he has ever come to a battlefield is probably during a game of Skirmish. It must have been truly horrifying to see all those people with paint splattered all over their overalls and screaming in pain from the stinging impact of those little balls of paint!!

AS for McTernan’s post nominals ‘JP’. ANZMI was able to learn that McTernan is not an authorised JP in NSW. McTernan first became a JP in QLD. However, he is currently suspended due to his failure to re-register within the required timeframe. Anyone who has had documents signed by McTernan should seek legal advice to determine whether the documents submitted to the respective authority are still considered to be legally acceptable.

McTernan must have sensed ANZMI was closing in on him. On his Facebook page McTernan began heaping praise on ANZMI for the work we do exposing liars, cheats and wannabe’s. Such praise included:

“I admire the good work that your organisation does in exposing military imposters.”

Too late Mr McTernan, far too late! You are an imposter, a liar, a valour thief and a wannabe of the highest possible calibre. Welcome to the ANZMI website Mr McTernan for all the world to see.

 

Paul John McTernan

Update 01 SEP 15


To begin, ANZMI would like to make it clear that we have no interest whatsoever in the antics between McTernan, the Woolgoolga RSL Sub Branch or the Save the Woolgoolga WW1 Memorial Group. Our focus is on McTernan’s false claims to have served in the Rhodesian Army and other relevant information connected with this case.

A great deal has occurred since McTernan was exposed by ANZMI. He has been extremely active on social media, particularly on Facebook where he has attempted to explain to all and sundry that “ANZMI got it all wrong“!

“Wrong” is a very appropriate word to use Mr McTernan, but it’s not ANZMI that got it wrong, it’s you!

On the Regiment Family Facebook page McTernan has claimed that the application to join the Woolgoolga RSL Sub Branch that appears on his exposure has been forged (scroll up to review the application on McTernan’s original exposure).

On 11 August 2015 here’s what McTernan had to say:

“Folks with regards to the false and misleading statements made about me, I have currently sent letters to the various organisation’s (sic) requesting copies of certain documents. I an (sic) concerned that on face value particular documents appear to be forged and/or fraudulent, when the certified copies of the originals are sent to me, I will post up for all to see and then, I will then seek legal advice against those responsible for the forged documents and also the false and misleading defamatory remarks made against me.”

And on 12 August 2015 (on the same Facebook page):

“I have never severed (sic) in either the Rhodesian SAS or 2 Commando Company. The document is a fraud. The hand writing is not mine; my date of birth is 17/1/1961 and not 1960 as alleged. I Joined the Australian Army in 1981 and not 1980 as alleged in this bogus document.”

The dates that McTernan’s claims to have served in the Australian Army are only a minor issue. The issue is that McTernan claimed on his application to have served in the Rhodesian Army from 1980 to 1994.

An outright and blatant lie!

What ANZMI didn’t include in his original exposure was the back page of the application that clearly shows McTernan’s signature. His handwriting is unique and indisputable. Here is the back page:


This page shows not only his, but also the Sub Branch Secretary's and a witness’s signature. Below is a Statutory Declaration made by the Sub Branch Secretary who witnessed McTernan complete and sign the application on 14 April 2009:

McTernan claimed on Facebook:

The document that was sent to ANZMI is a fake; i have never seen that document before. It has been fabricatedto NSW Head office.”.

The Sub Branch Secretary did not complete the application on McTernan’s behalf. This is incredibly easy to prove by comparing the handwriting in the Secretary’s Statutory Declaration to the handwriting on McTernan’s allegedly “forged” application. They are NOT the same. The Secretary’s handwriting style is vastly different to McTernan’s.

You’ll also note that McTernan’s signature on page 2 of the RSL application has a distinct slant to the left. It’s distinct and unique because McTernan is right-handed. It’s considered to be quite rare for a right-handed person’s handwriting to slope to the left. Comparing his signature on page 2 of the application (the slant to the left) and the handwriting on the page that ANZMI posted on his exposure, they both slant the same way – to the left. Therefore the application posted by ANZMI was undeniably completed by McTernan. Other idiosyncrasies relating to the way McTernan writes are also easily identifiable. For example; letters R, M, N, S, J, numbers 2, 4 and 7.

McTernan’s handwriting on his application to join the RSL can also be matched with his handwriting on the Enlistment application (see below). Even though the time difference between the two documents is almost 30 years, it is easy to ascertain that both documents were written by McTernan.

ANZMI investigators are not handwriting experts, but it doesn’t take a Degree in Handwriting Analysis to conclude the writing on both documents is the same.

Also, the application that McTernan purports to be the “real” application that he posted on the Regiment Family Facebook page is not the certified true copy that he swore he would produce. This alone indicates that McTernan may have “forged” his own application in an (awkward) attempt to prove his innocence.

The application ANZMI posted is NOT “forged” as McTernan would like you to believe.

With regard to McTernan’s denial of ever saying he served in the Rhodesian Army, apart from the irrefutable evidence that has already been produced, ANZMI was provided with a screenshot of an online conversation McTernan had with a member of the Regiment Family Facebook page. During the conversation McTernan states he was in the Rhodesian Army in 1979 (FYI: The person McTernan is conversing with also has the first name “Paul”). Here is the screenshot:

Once again McTernan claims to have served in the Rhodesian Army and further proof that he’s a pathological liar.

On the Regiment Family Facebook page McTernan wrote:


“As for the media article on ANZMI which stated quote; “as a former Soldier who has fought on the battlefield and has also witnessed the horrors of war”, This is 80% a true statement, However what was not properly conveyed was my back-ground as an overseas security consultant.

My family left the UK in the 1970’s because of the trouble in Northern Ireland and also due to the constantly bullying that my family suffered, due to my father being an Irishman. I saw bombed out buildings in Belfast and Derry, people attacking one another, riots and being constantly attacked at school and in our neighbourhood. I also witnessed war torn horrors in both South America and Africa on and off from 1989 to 1991. However, I was not a soldier I was just a security consultant.

It’s up to you what you want to believe and personally I do not give a F__K!”

80% true statement? Which part of it is 20% a lie?

This is another example of McTernan’s need to lie. One where he clearly admits that all he says is not necessarily the truth.

McTernan’s statement “As a former soldier who has fought on the battlefield…..” This lie alone is more than enough to make every current and former member of every defence force in the world who has done their time on a REAL battlefield seethe with anger at McTernan for telling such an outright and diabolical lie.

He has trivialised the service of so many just to further himself within the local community.

Furthermore, McTernan clearly states his family migrated from Ireland to Australia in the 1970’s (according to his Enlistment Application – previous addresses – it indicates the McTernan family arrived in Australia in 1975). At that time he would have been 14 or 15 years old (at the most), yet McTernan claims to have had an argument with his family and ran away overseas to find adventure, only to find bloodshed and misery. He claims to have returned to Australia in 1980 and joined the Army!

On the Save the Woolgoolga WW1 Memorial Group Facebook page McTernan wrote:

On his application to join the RSL McTernan stated he joined the Army in 1981. This is supported by his Enlistment Application (below) dated 18 August the same year. Yet, in his Facebook entry (above) he states he joined the Army in 1980 and under the name Leigh McTernan! His Enlistment Application clearly shows he joined the Army under the name Paul McTernan.

Does McTernan even know who he is?

Judging by his Enlistment Application, from 1975 to 1981 McTernan was living with his family in Victoria. From 1979 (18 years of age) to 1981 (20 years of age) he was continually employed pumping petrol and wiping windscreens at three different service stations! With this information alone it proves he never ‘ran away overseas..’ He was living with his family in Victoria and working as a grease monkey the whole time.

Here is page 1 and 2 of his Enlistment Application, judge for yourself:

He found bloodshed and misery? It must have been a fairly traumatic experience while working in petrol stations!

Mr McTernan you are an outright liar, a cheat and a despicable person without an ounce of honesty and integrity!

You have been well and truly BUSTED!!

On a final note,

It has also been revealed that, on McTernan’s Facebook page, he claims that between 1994 and 1997 he obtained a Diploma in Social Science Justice from Swinburne University of Technology in Victoria. According to the Admin staff at Swinburne Uni, no one with the surname McTernan has ever studied there, either on campus or by distance education. Another ‘McPorkie’ maybe?

On McTernan’s Facebook page he states that his favourite quote is:

The hall has been rented, the band has been paid, time to see you dance”

Let’s see you tap dance your way out of this one McTernan.

 

 

Paul John McTernan Update
20 March 2016


Not a lot of time has passed since ANZMI’s last update on McTernan’s lies and fraudulent claims of service in the Rhodesian Light Infantry and his claims to have been a “former soldier who has fought on the battlefield and witnessed first-hand the horrors of war”. You’d think it would have ended there….

Wrong!

Investigations by ANZMI do not stop once a person has been exposed on our website, we keep an eye open for anything that might catch our attention and provide us with enough evidence to post an update.

It’s now evident that McTernan hasn’t limited spreading his lies about his fictitious service in the Rhodesian Light Infantry to Facebook and local newspapers, he has also spread his vile dribble on other website forums. One such forum is on the nissanpatrol.com.au website, of which he is a member.

In the case of McTernan, ANZMI has discovered information that pre-dates our original exposure. If there ever was a case where the comment “final nail in the coffin” was appropriate, this would be it.

If you refer back to the 15 September 2015 Update, McTernan claimed:

I have never severed (sic) in either the Rhodesian SAS or 2 Commando Company. The document is a fraud. The hand writing is not mine; my date of birth is 17/1/1961 and not 1960 as alleged. I Joined the Australian Army in 1981 and not 1980 as alleged in this bogus document.”

Bogus document? Read on and judge for yourself…..

While it’s not known what the topic of conversation was about, on 17 April 2013 McTernan made this comment on the nissanpatrol.com.au forum:

McTernan1 2 3 4


What an incredible lie!

In the year McTernan claims he was fighting a war in Rhodesia, losing close mates and killing multitudes of enemy, he was actually pumping petrol and wiping windscreens at various service stations in Melbourne. If you need to refresh your memory, see his Enlistment Application included in ANZMI’s original exposure.

On 6 July 2013, McTernan was asked if he served in Vietnam. His response was:

McTernan2 2 3 4

Needless to say, during 1979 and up to the time of his enlistment in the Australian Army (1981), McTernan was working in Melbourne as a service station attendant.

On the 5 August 2013, a member of the Nissan Patrol forum posted this:

McTernan3 2 3 4

To any ex-serving member of the Rhodesian Light Infantry (RLI) it would have been an incredible honour to meet one of the founding members of the RLI. However McTernan, fearing he would be exposed as the cheat and liar that he is, never responded. Perhaps a missed opportunity?

And sometime during 2013 and 2014, McTernan posted this on the forum:

McTernan4 2 3 4


The nickname (or user name) McTernan used on the forum was “RLI” (Rhodesian Light Infantry - which he later changed to PMC – Paul Mc).

On 12 January 2014, McTernan made sure every reader completely understood his claims to have been a member of the Rhodesian Light Infantry and the dates for when he served:

McTernan5 2 3 4


McTernan enlisted in the Australian Army in 1981.

And on 5 June 2014, McTernan reiterated what his user name was:

McTernan6 2 3 4


And if you think it stopped there, think again….

On 20 June 2014 there was this:

McTernan7 2 3 4


McTernan never posted a list of his “last rites weapons”. Considering McTernan was a service station attendant between 1979 and 1981, it is highly unlikely he was able to conduct experiments on the capabilities of the F1 9mm automatic weapon. He certainly wasn’t in any Defence Force. Another McPorkie maybe?

And finally, just to confuse things even more, in late 2012 McTernan posted this on the patrol4x4.com forum (of which he was a member):

McTernan8


If there was ever any doubt surrounding McTernan’s innocence, this update will have cleared up any such reservations a person may have had.

McTernan continues to lie in an attempt to defend his less than honourable character. He has not only offended the Australian and New Zealand veterans and ex-serviceman community, you can now include the veterans of the Rhodesian Light Infantry as well.

You have forever claimed a permanent top spot on the ANZMI website for all the world to see.

 

Paul John McTernan

Update

05 June 2016

 

Congratulations Paul John McTernan, your exposure of being a liar, a cheat and a wannabe has gone international with a similar organisation to that of ANZMI having also published your ridiculous antics. McTernan now appears on the Facebook page of the "Rhodesian Wannabes, Bloaters and the Scum that support them”. It won’t take long for other such organisations to follow suit.

Even though McTernan’s claims of having been a former soldier in the Rhodesian Light Infantry (RLI) have been irrefutably exposed as blatant lies, more information is still being forwarded to ANZMI that pre-dates everything else we have published so far.

As unbelievable as it may seem, in 2009 McTernan even tried to convince an ex-RLI servicemen that he was a former member of the RLI during the period 1979 to 1980. Here is what that ex-serviceman had to say:

“Quite a “Once upon a time” history. He actually claimed to have written a book on the experience, which he said he would send to me, but never did. It was going to be published as “Born To Fight” with a possibility of being published by a proper publishing house like Allen & Unwin or Pan Macmillan etc”.

McTernan was writing a book on his “experiences” while serving in the RLI and he was going to call the book “Born To Fight”? If it did get published, it would have been a very interesting read indeed! But remember to go to the section of the library or book store labelled “Fiction”.

It’s clear that McTernan has been delusional for many, many years.

The ex-RLI serviceman also stated:

“McTernan…….. probably wanted to serve in Rhodesia, but lacked the initiative of others around the world who came to join us in the RLI”.

McTernan lacked initiative? No revelations there!

The ex-RLI serviceman clearly had suspicions about McTernan’s claims to have served in the RLI and commented:

“I did a little digging myself in 2009 because words that I had with him eventually did not stack”.

The ex-RLI serviceman quickly realised that McTernan was lying about his supposed service with the RLI. A realisation that most people, who have been unfortunate enough to have had dealings with McTernan over the years, also came to the same conclusion.

It seems that McTernan wasn’t happy with just fabricating his service in the RLI. Unbelievably, he even applied for Rhodesian medals. Below are the applications he submitted (via an organisation called “We Were Rhodesians”) for the issue of such medals:

 

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Note his service for each of the awards. The first and second confirm McTernan tried to pass himself off as a Commando. The third is his application for the Rhodesia Medal where his service is listed as “Civ”. We are led to believe McTernan was applying for the Rhodesia Medal as a civilian! We know! Unbelievable, right!


The ex-RLI serviceman said:

“Note the award date of the RGSM (Rhodesia General Service Medal) vs his date of birth and date of attesting. RGSM was awarded to him, apparently, when he was four years of age. He must have applied for these medals. Because my RLI service ended in ’76, I certainly was not in a position to verify facts as claimed, but when I saw that, I chose not to proceed with further assistance around those medals. At that stage I did not know of the existence of ANZMI.”

An RGSM as a four year old? McTernan, if you’re going to fraudulently apply for a medal, at least make your age of attesting a believable one!

This gentleman was able to quickly ascertain that McTernan was a fraud and a liar. Had he have known ANZMI existed, we could have exposed McTernan much earlier and saved a lot of people a whole lot of angst.

In 2009, McTernan was in contact with another ex-Rhodesian serviceman, again trying to fraudulently obtain Rhodesian medals he wasn’t entitled to. Below is an email from McTernan to that person:

From: Paul McTernan [
allison.paul@bigpond.com ]
Sent: 10 June 2009 09:58 AM
To: XXXX
Subject: Service number

Hi XXXX,
I served 12 months with the 1st Bn Rhodesian Light Infantry, 3 Commando, from 1979 to 1980.
My service details were 730199 Tpr McTernan PJ.
CO at the time was Bate, I forgot the last CO's name.
RSM was Read
OC's was Price I think?
I have forgot the CSM's name.
I was discharged due to injuries to my right arm and right leg.
Would my med docs be a source of info?
Regards,
Paul McTernan JP

According to McTernan, his OC (Officer Commanding) was killed during the “Bush War” in 1979 (see previous update). And how could he have possibly enlisted into the Australian Army with such injuries that were serious enough for him to be medically discharged from the RLI?? There’s definitely no mention of these injuries detailed in his application to join the Army. If McTernan wants to prove he suffered such serious injuries, we are more than willing to view the medical documents and be proven wrong.

But wait! Of course there’s no mention of such wounds when he applied to join the Australian Army, because in his application McTernan stated he had never served in another Armed Force.

And in the email, McTernan included the post nominal “JP” (Justice of the Peace). In response to ANZMI’s original exposure, McTernan claimed he “has never used the post nominal “JP” while he has been a resident of NSW”. Since McTernan was a resident of NSW at the time he sent the above email, we think McTernan should retract that statement and admit it was just another one of his lies.

Once again, McTernan has come up with another totally different version of his fake Rhodesian service history, different than any other we have previously encountered.

As for McTernan’s application to be awarded the three medals…

Suffice to say, he didn’t get them.

Finally, the ex-Rhodesian serviceman had this to say….

“Paul did buy some Rhodesian Drinking glasses from CQ Store of Rhodesian Services Association New Zealand Registered Charity CC25203. I cannot help the urge I have to demand that he return them”.

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The truly sad thing about McTernan’s lies is that, whenever his name is googled, not only will his name appear in the search results, but also his daughter’s (who happens to be a gifted sportswoman).

No one should suffer for the mistakes of others, no matter who they are.

 

Surname: Mead
Christian Names: Leslie W
Country: Australia
State or Province: NSW
City or Town: Padstow
Service: Nil
Case Notes:

Leslie W Mead of Sussex Inlet in New South Wales

 

For many years Mead has pretended to be a Vietnam Veteran, worn the medals, talked the talk and walked the walk at both the Padstow NSW and Sussex Inlet NSW Returned Services League (RSL) Clubs and Sub Branches. He was a full member at Padstow and an affiliate member at Sussex Inlet.   Mead is now hereby named and shamed as a liar, a cheat and a wannabe.

 

 

In the photograph Mead is clearly shown wearing the Vietnam Medal rack and a Returned from Active Service Badge (RASB] and the coveted Infantry Combat Badge [ICB]. He has stated to RSL members that he served in Vietnam as a Commissioned Officer.  He told an ANZMI Investigator that he served in Vietnam with 5th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (5RAR). 

5RAR have an association web site that contains the names of all who served with the Battalion in Vietnam.  Mead is not included on the 5RAR nominal roll; in addition Mead is not listed on the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) official Nominal Roll.

On another occasion Mead told an ANZMI Investigator that his only service was as a 1950s National Serviceman and as an Officer of Army Cadets.  He gave his Regimental number as 20331.  Central Army Records Office has no record of any person serving under that Regimental number in the Australian Regular Army.  It is an Army School Cadets number. If he ever served as a 1950s National Serviceman he has no Service File under the name of Leslie William Mead.

Here is the response to our request for Mead’s service file:

Ms xxxxxxxx,

Regarding your recent inquiries:

Leslie W Mead born 17/6/1940, 20331 – CARO cannot identify a serviceman with those details

Regards,

xxxxxxxxxxxx
Reference & Information Services
National Archives of Australia


Mead has spent years in both Padstow NSW and Sussex Inlet NSW creating a false military history for himself. It is our job to correct Mead’s false military history and we hope those people who have been lied to for many years now fully appreciate the extent of lies and dishonesty served up to them by Mead who was supposed to be their friend.

Now that he has been named and shamed we hope he feels it was all worth while, because he has gone from being an honourable Vietnam Veteran and RSL member to a liar, cheat and wannabe in one fell swoop.

Leslie W Mead is liable under the Defence Act 1903 to be charged and placed before a court for falsely claiming to be a returned veteran and for wearing medals he is not entitled to wear; both of these charges have a maximum penalty of $3,300 fine or six months prison or both.

The lack of due care exhibited by the RSL in checking the credentials of those applying for membership has become ingrained into the culture of the RSL. The RSL has an integrity problem because of the “watering down” of membership criteria. Veterans no longer control many Sub Branches as the Sub Branches have been taken over by people like Mead and by ex Servicemen who have never experienced operational service.

Any good work that may have been done by Leslie W Mead as an Officer of Cadets has been scuttled because Veterans will not abide those who steal their honour.

We hope that Mead does the right thing and scuttles away from the Veteran community.

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Mealey
Christian Names: John Alexander
Country: Australia
State or Province: WA
City or Town: Bunbury
Service: Army
Branch: Transport
Case Notes:

John Alexander MEALEY

 DOB 28/06/1949, of Bunbury, 5717049 was a National Serviceman who was officially posted to the SAS Regiment on the 1st August 1970 as an ECN T109 Driver till his discharge on completing his 2 years of service. Read why he appears on this page

Mealey commenced his two years of National Service on the 2nd October, 1969 and was posted to 2 Recruit Training Battalion for his basic army training. He was then posted to 3 Training Battalion on the 10th December 1969 where he completed his Infantry Corps training.

On the 23rd March 1970 he was posted as an ECN 343 Rifleman to attend the 3/70 Basic SAS Training Cadre which ran from 08th April to 13th May 1970 as the first phase of qualifying as an SAS Trooper. Those that completed and passed phase one would go on to do phase two, the Basic Static Line Parachute course which would qualify them as an SAS Trooper and the right to wear the SAS Sandy Beret and SAS Badge.

Mealey failed the first phase before the cadre was completed and attended an Army Trade course known as a Driver T 109 which qualified the person to drive a number of types of army vehicles. He completed this course on the 19thJune 1970 and was formally posted to Base Squadron SAS Regiment as a Driver ECN T 109. He was with Base Squadron till his discharge from the army on the 30th September 1971.

 NOTE.   ECN.....Employment Category Number.... A method of classification of various employments within the Australian Military system.

In the South Western Times, dated Thursday May 2, 2002 a photo appears of Mealey marching on ANZAC Day with a group of qualified ex SAS members in Bunbury. He is wearing the coveted SAS Sandy beret which he is not entitled to wear as he failed the basic SAS course.

He was last seen wearing the beret on the 29th April 2007 at Subiaco Oval. This was part of the 50th Anniversary of the SAS Regiment prior to the Len Hall AFL commemorative game starting between the Fremantle Dockers and Adelaide. Members of the SAS Association marched around the oval whilst 44 Army cadets marched onto the oval, each carrying a flag depicting the SAS coat of arms in remembrance of the 44 members of the regiment who were killed on duty.

The Len Hall AFL commemorative game was started by the Fremantle Dockers as a tribute to the last West Australian World War 1 Gallipoli Veteran who later passed away on the 24th February 1999, aged 101.

Mealey is the second National Service person to be exposed as falsely wearing the SAS beret when not entitled to do so. Though he is not claiming to be a veteran he is by wearing the SAS beret showing his lack of loyalty or respect to serving and ex-serving members of the SAS Regiment as well as those that have fallen on active service or in training that did the hard yards to earn the right to wear the beret.   Members of the SAS Regiment as well as the members of the SAS Association must be wondering how this could be happening. Surely the credentials of anyone applying must be checked out especially for an elite unit such as the SAS. We know he is a member of the WA Branch and it will be interesting to see if the WA Branch of the SAS Association will expel this fraud or keep him on in their Association as they have with Dennis Liddelow who also appears on our site.

Is the SAS Association no better than a number of RSL branches that are mentioned on this site for failing to check the credentials of members they have let into their branches and occupy high positions in their branches.

A number of wannabes claiming SAS or Special Forces service appear on our site and after Mc Gibbon was caught out we would have thought the SAS Association would have carried out a back ground check on all its members.

20th Dec 2010

Well we finally have an update from a disgruntled member of the SAS Association to advise us what has been done by the WA Branch in regard to John Mealey and Dennis Liddelow who were both National servicemen and posted to the SAS Regiment and appear on our web site. The WA Branch Committee has taken it upon itself to form a Disciplinary Sub-Committee and accept apologies from Mealey and Liddelow on behalf of the WA Branch and the SAS Regiment

It is obvious that the WA Branch Committee is a law onto itself and does not keep its members informed of what is occurring and appear to be covering up the fact that two of its members appear on our web site.. The future will tell what effect that will have on its membership.

When a person appearing on our web site submits an apology our criteria is set out below.

1.     They offer a written apology to the veteran community at large, and
2.     They offer a written apology to their unit/ship/muster
3.     The offended Veterans accept the apology. 

The apology must be accepted by all, not a few.

One must assume the committee knows that number of its members and the unit would not accept their apology, thus the reason for the way they handle things.

They will remain on our web site for eternity and we will be adding updates as members of the public report any other information to us.

To ANZMI
 
Subject Mealey and Liddelow on your web site.
 
This is to advise you that on the 29th August 2010, the WA Branch of the Australian SAS Association held an Annual General Meeting. A member of the committee put forward two motions to have Mealey and Liddelow who both appear on your web site be expelled from the WA Branch in breach of the WA Constitution in that they have brought discredit to the Regiment and the Association. The reference to the Association Constitution wording is “To preserve the Regiment’s good name and guard its interests”.
 
Only a small group of the members attended the Annual General Meeting, compared to the number of members within the branch. The motions were not sent out with the AGM papers 30 days prior to the meeting as required by the Incorporation Act so most members would not have known about the motions nor would they know the story behind the motions in that two of the WA Branch members appear on your site. They would not also be aware that Liddelow, the worst of the two has lied about his short service when posted to the SAS Regiment to finish off his National Service as a steward.
 
Only a small number of members attending the meeting voted to expel them, the rest don’t seem to mind that both have worn the SAS Beret and Badge when not qualified to do so and that Liddelow has told a lot of lies serving in Vietnam with the SAS and having one of the highest kill rates.
 
It appears that if you have been posted to the Regiment at some time, it makes no difference what lies you tell about your service with the Regiment or that you have worn the SAS Beret and Badge which is not an easy task to earn the right to wear the beret and badge of the SAS Regiment or any Special Force unit, you will be protected.
 
It appears that a Disciplinary Sub-Committee was formed and discussed the cases of Mealey and Liddelow and came up with recommendations. I did ask my mate what has happened about them as I was not at the meeting. He sent me the following result and I have crossed out the name of the president mentioned who was not even the president when they were discovered. We don’t know when the meeting was held as no one was advised about it or of the result. I and a number of members are disgusted the way the matters have been handled. My membership is due to run expire and I will not renew my membership if this association is not going to be open and accountable to its members.
 
I read your web site as I know a number of other members do and you are doing a great job. I have forwarded this email to your organization as I am totally disappointed in the lack of fortitude by the committee to keep its members informed of what is happening. Keep up the good work.
 
Yours Sincerely
 
XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
 
Please be advised that following the meeting of the disciplinary sub-committee the following recommendations were made.
Disciplinary Sub-Committee Recommendations
Re - Dennis Liddelow & John Mealey
The disciplinary sub-committee recommend that:
• The apologies tendered by Dennis Liddelow and John Mealey be accepted.
• The resignation tendered by Dennis Liddelow be accepted.
• The members be advised individually of the outcomes of the hearing.
• The complainants be advised of the outcomes of the hearing.
• The matter be listed as an agenda item at the next Annual General Meeting of
the Australian Special Air Service Association (WA Branch).
These recommendations are based on the facts presented to us and are made in the
belief that that there have been no further instances by either member since they were
admonished by XXXXX XXXXX the ASASA (W A Branch) president at the time.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Mee
Christian Names: Henry
Country: Australia
State or Province: QLD
City or Town: Greenbank
Service: Army
Case Notes:
MEE Henry [Harry]

Henry Mee was born 26 November, 1936, in Ireland.    He claimed on his enlistment documentation,, that he had seven years service in the Irish and then the British Army prior to enlisting in the Australian Army, 7 June, 1965, at the age of 28.  He enlisted for a term of six years but did not complete the full term, having requested "discharge at own request" and was out of the Army on 16 October 1968.   That's a total of 3 years and 4 months regular Army service and during this period of service Henry went to South Viet Nam on the 28th of February, 1966 by aircraft and was posted to Headquarters 1 Australian Task Force [HQ 1 ATF], Nui Dat.   His posting at this time was as an ECN 638 Orderly, working in an Orderly room as a Clerk.   On 7 March 1966 he was posted as a Private Rifleman ECN 757, but even with this posting change he remained as an orderly.

Mee was promoted to Lance Corporal on 25 July 1966, and according to his record of service remained as a Private on the pay scales with the reason given, "to give soldier a greater degree of authority in his extra Regimental duty as the Other Ranks Canteen Manager".   This Posting  Occurrence Report was signed by the Officer Commanding Headquarter Company 1 ATF on 25 July 1966.

From here his career and the stories related about service take a different twist.   The stories that have been reported to CPMH state he claims the following:

Three tours of duty in South Viet Nam

35 years of Army service

Served in Infantry, 5 Battalion the Royal Australian Regiment [5RAR] in Viet Nam

He was a Sergeant in Viet Nam with 5 RAR

He was in 11 platoon, Delta Company, 6 RAR at the Battle of Long Tan

The awards and decorations he claims [and wears] can be seen in his photograph on this site entry.  These awards are:

The Infantry Combat badge.....no entitlement
 

Medal of Service [Congo]....no entitlement
 

UN Medal [Cyprus]....no entitlement
 

The Australian Active Service Medal....entitled
 

The Viet Nam Campaign Medal....entitled
 

The Vietnamese Campaign Medal...entitled

CPMH has confirmed the above entitlements/non entitlements to awards.

On 20 November 1966 Mee was charged with "Improper possession of a 9mm Browning Pistol".   This charge resulted in his reduction from Lance Corporal back to Private and saw him perform 21 days field punishment with 21 days loss of pay.   From here it appears he was posted back to Sydney where he did go to 5 RAR, as an Orderly Room Clerk, not a rifleman serving in Viet Nam with the battalion.   This has been confirmed with 5 RAR.    From here he was attached to 1 Recruit Training Battalion [1RTB], Kapooka, as a Regimental Duty NCO with the rank of Temporary Corporal.   Things should have been on the up for Mee, however he chose to go AWOL from 19 to 21 August 1968 and received a severe reprimand and a fine of $40.   Did this lead to his requesting discharge from the ARA on 16 October 1968?

After discharge from the ARA, Mee enlisted in the Citizens Military Forces [CMF] for two years in 19 Royal New South Wales Regiment [RNSWR] on 17 February 1969 and was made a Temporary Sergeant with the service number of 2266955.  This was later reverted back to his Regular Army service number.   This service was terminated with his discharge on 12 August 1969.

Mee then reenlisted in the CMF from 15 September 1973 as a Temporary Corporal but was reduced to the rank of Private for going AWOL on 5 Feb 1974.

Mee finally wrote and asked for his medals for service in South Viet Nam on 18 November 1969 and stated in this letter that he had served with D & E Platoon, HQ 1 ATF while in Viet Nam.   It is duly noted that he did not serve with this unit but did receive his medals and his Returned from Active Service badge numbered 41623 on 30 January 1968.

It would appear that Henry Mee cannot resist the temptation to be in uniform and to tell stories of derring do to anyone who will listen.  He is currently on the staff of a cadet unit in South Queensland and holds the rank of Cadet Captain.    This is a community based Army cadet unit and is not affiliated with or authorised by Australian Defence cadet units.   This possibly suits the needs of Captain Henry Mee as he can wear all his medals and tell all his stories without fear of being caught out........or can he, as these pages show.

It is known that when this cadet unit parades for Anzac day Henry Mee always wears civilian clothes.   Is this because of his standing in the Greenbank R & SL  where he is a member, Welfare Officer and Vice President and if he was seen wearing all his false awards he would be quickly picked as a fraud by the genuine Veterans, especially those who have earned the right to wear the coveted ICB that Mee has on his chest.

 To sum Henry Mee up, he served in Viet Nam as a Orderly Room Clerk for his tour of duty in South Viet Nam.   He did not serve outside the wire.    The stories and unauthorised medals listed above are not indicated anywhere in his record of service [which we have] and unless Henry is prepared to complete a statutory declaration stating he is illegally wearing the medals shown in his photo and named above and is prepared to retract his fictitious stories, then the real facts will remain here on the site for eternity.  

As a genuine Veteran who has bent the truth he is entitled to make this apology which will replace this story if the Veteran community is prepared to accept it.

29 May 2004

 Henry aka “Harry” Mee returned to Viet Nam in what is believed to beOctober 2003. He was accompanied by his wife and the couple spent a few days in Vung Tau. 

At this time we had friends in Saigon and Vung Tau who were always on the lookout for anything unusual. One of these friends spotted what appeared to be some interesting additions to the writings on the wall at a Vung Tau Pub and forwarded photos of them to us.  Lo and behold, here’s one that did not lead to an investigation but confirms that Henry Mee was telling untruths during his "Viet Nam Revisited" trip.

 The owner of the Pub put on a party, complete with a cake, for the happy couple because they were celebrating their 40th wedding anniversary, many expats and locals gathered for the happy event.   This was 20 October 2003.

A wonderful gesture from the Pub owner but we have since discovered that Henry Mee and his wife were married in 1964, not 1963. It was not their 40th wedding anniversary.  Information recently received indicates that Henry and Mrs Mee were married on 23 September 1959.   In October 2003, they had been married for 44 years.   Further information tells us that they did not lie to the pub owner about the fact that they had been married for this length of time but they did say that 20 October was the date of their anniversary.   They left for Saigon the following day.

 This entry below on the Pub wall could not have been written by someone other than Henry,  he was positively identified as being the Henry Mee in this site exposure.

 Henry had later claimed to have been with these units mentioned, we know he wasn’t in D&E Platoon and we know he wasn’t in 5 PL, 5RAR, 1966-67. 

An unfortunate aside to this is that Mrs. Pearl Mee went along with the 40th anniversary story knowing full well that it wasn’t true.  

There you have it, this person even sank so low as to rip off a Pub owner in Vung Tau who has always shown a warm welcome to Veterans who visit his establishment.

This Pub owner is the same one who displayed his displeasure after catching up with Howard “H” Wilde in Saigon,see our site story on “H”. We can only hope that he doesn’t catch up with Henry in the near future.

24 November 2005

Yet another senior member of an ex-service organisation. The Returned Services League, again. The organisation that had a newspaper article printed prior to last Anzac Day showing their willingness to remove wannabes from their ranks.

Stand at ease, rest,  Queensland RSL HQ. Read about another of your executive wannabes and thieves and wait for the next one to appear on our Cases page very soon.

Henry (Harry) Mee is or was a Vice President of Greenbank RSL Sub-Branch Inc. (Queensland) He was at July 2004.

We wonder how Harry could have been employed since at least 1983, while in receipt of a service pension, without any of the executives of this sub-branch being aware of the facts. He must have been a member of long standing to reach such an executive level.

He spent quite a bit of time and energy earlier this year trying to obtain letters of support from former HQ Company 1ATF members who served with him at Nui Dat. We have a copy of one of his "request for assistance" letters dated 9 February 2005.

He was preparing for a hearing before an Administrative Appeals Tribunal where the fate of his quest for a lifetime compensation payment (TPI) from the Dept of Veteran's affairs would be decided.

Read this report for what transpired at the Tribunal on 16 November 2005. Take special note of the report of the Repatriation Commission's Special Investigations Unit at Paragraph 21, and the results of a search warrant executed at the Mee residence.   (Bookmark us as this will take you away from our site) 
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/aat/2005/1131.html

This is the villain who threatened to sue us at CPMH for "attacks" on his and his wife's integrity. What integrity? Thieves don't have any.

We must pass on a "well done" to DVA. The Department will reclaim monies that they have been handing out to Henry Mee and his wife for the past 22 years. Better late than never

. 28th Jun 2011

Henry “Harry” Mee – RSL executive, liar, fraud and wannabe.

Greenbank, Returned Services League (RSL) in Greenbank, Brisbane, Queensland is another apathetic RSL that has allowed a liar, fraud, wannabe and DVA cheat to occupy a senior position. We speak of a Vice President who is also a Welfare Officer of the Greenbank RSL, Henry (Harry) Mee.

Mee has been exposed as a liar, fraud and wannabe by ANZMI and a criminal, falsely claiming a pension by the Department of Veterans affairs.  His wannabe activities are documented in previous ANZMI entries, below is an excerpt from evidence of the Australian,  Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT) of the 18 November 2005:

"Mr and Mrs Mee applied for Service pension on 13 October 1981, in Victoria, on the basis of Mr Mee’s permanent unemployability. His Service pension application showed that they had no money and were paying Housing Commission rent.

After various medical checks and consultation with the Department of Social Security, Veterans’ Affairs eventually granted a service pension on 29 April 1983, with effect from 2 May 1983.

From May 1983 to date, they have continually received Service pension on the basis of Mr Mee’s permanent unemployability and completed numerous statements to the effect that neither of them have ever worked.

Veterans’ Affairs recently became aware that Mr Mee was working as a security guard for Chubb Security. Enquiries were made to Chubb and it was found that Mr Mee was working as a security guard since, at least, December 1993. Mee was working under the name of Harry James Mee and working 30 to 40 hours per week. It was also learned that Mrs Mee was working as a cleaner at Garden City Shopping centre.

On 13 August 1998 a search warrant was executed at the Mees rented home at 23 Dayana Street Marsden Q 4132. Evidence found on the premises clearly indicates that Mee has worked as a Security Guard since 1983 at least; and Pearl Mee has been employed since at least 1989.

Amongst the evidence gained by the Search Warrant were statements to Veterans Affairs under the name of Henry Mee to the effect that he had not worked for seventeen years; and statements to the State government compensation board and various employers, under the name of Harry James Mee, that he had worked for the past 16 years in the Security Industry.

I have studied the Department of Veterans’ Affairs files and the information obtained under Search Warrant and I find that:

1. Mr Mee is not and never has been Permanently Incapacitated under the Act,

2. Mr and Mrs Mee made a false statement on their original application for Service pension to the effect that Mr Mee was not working and was not capable of working, when in fact, he was employed at the time of that application and has been in employment since then, and

3. Both Mr and Mrs Mee are not entitled to payment of Service pension.

Our original exposure is dated 2004, here is a photograph of Mee taken on ANZAC Day 2009 notice that he is still wearing medals he is not entitled to wear, these are the United Nations Medals issued for service in the Congo and Cyprus.  He has also replaced the Infantry Combat Badge (ICB) with an Army Combat Badge (ACB). In addition he wears lots of trinkets and badges to promote himself as something he never was.

 

 

Despite the medals he wears, Mee was never in the British or Irish Army. In evidence to the AAT, his history prior to migrating to Australia does not include military service. Here is another excerpt from the AAT of the 18th November 2005:

• Henry Mee was born at Athlone, Republic of Ireland, on 26 November 1939.

• After leaving school he obtained a job with Dunlop in England, as an inspector of  works.

• He migrated to Australia in 1964.

Our support base consists of the majority of Australian and New Zealand Veterans.  Because of that base we have eyes and ears everywhere.  The RSL is an organisation that is supposed to provide leadership and support to Veterans.  The RSL like all organisations is reliant on the energy and moral standards of its members. It has hard working dedicated Veterans working for the betterment of fellow Veterans, conversely it has many Rats like “Harry” Mee scurrying around holding senior positions and undermining the good work of honest veterans who appear to be slipping into a minority.

The rats get into power in the RSL because it is in their nature to seek kudos and be noticed as community heroes. We have uncovered many Ex Service Leaders who are dishonest Rats who falsely pretend to be much more than they really are. It is our intention to produce a list of all those we have exposed that are/were RSL and other ex Service Organisation Rats.

Here is an example of the disgusting lies that Mee has put forward in his attempts to get a pension from DVA:

24.Mr. Mee gave an inflated history to his examining medical practitioners. In February 2000, in connection with his PTSD claim, he told Dr Matthews that while in Vietnam he had seen disembowelled women, girls raped, people blown to bits, friends killed, and a badly charred child who had been thrown into a fire by the Viet Cong and that he had dug up dead bodies (folio 97) – but in his oral evidence he resiled from those accounts. He also claimed to have come into contact with Agent Orange which he claimed was used to spray flies and mosquitoes. I regard this claim to be absurd.

Mee has been comprehensively exposed as a liar, fraud and wannabe by ANZMI, The Australian Appeals Tribunal and the Department of Veterans Affairs and yet, here he is occupying a seat of power in an RSL.  -  

The Greenbank RSL brings Shame to the veteran community

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

 

Surname: Meehan
Christian Names: Terrence John
Country: Australia
State or Province: QLD
City or Town: Unknown
Case Notes:

Terence John Meehan Queensland Branch Returned Services League (RSL) State President.

Meehan, the Queensland State President of the RSL is a medals cheat. Be assured we take no pleasure in exposures of high profile Veterans; however, neither status nor position deters us. The higher the status the greater the offence, because public appearances and medals protocol are all part of the high profile individuals responsibilities. If a RSL State President can thumb his nose at protocol, and wear whatever he likes, then the integrity of the Defence Service medals system is doomed.

 

 

In recent times ANZMI has been assailed with vicious and obscene emails from executives of the Australian Peace Keepers and Peace Makers Veterans Association (APPVA) because a very senior member of their organisation was featured for wearing a “Tin” medal. It behooves our organisation to work without fear or favour and to expose those who do not follow medals protocol and choose to add that extra “pretty medal” to their Defence Force rack.

Hence we feature ex RAN Veteran, Terence Meehan, the Queensland State Branch, President of the RSL with expectations of “thunderous protest” from those who do not respect medals rules and protocols.

The offending medal is second from the right and is the Western Australia (WA) State Police Medal.  See below:

 

 

Meehan served in the WA State Police and was issued the medal by the State of WA.  Protocol for wearing State and Territory Government Awards is clearly promulgated on the Federal Government Medals web site  http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/

“Unofficial medals

Ex-service organisations sometimes commission their own unofficial medals to mark participation in particular military campaigns, periods of service or types of service that have not been recognised through the Australian honours system. Awards made by foreign governments which have not been approved by the Governor-General for acceptance and wear are also "unofficial". There is no impediment to wearing such medals in appropriate private settings, such as a meeting of the relevant ex-service association, or a reception hosted by the relevant foreign government. Ideally, unofficial medals should not be worn at public ceremonial and commemorative events, but if they are worn as the occasion demands, the convention is that they are worn on the right breast.

Q14.       How do I wear my state awards?

A14.       State awards are worn on the right breast because only national awards in the

               Order of Wearing  Australian Honours and Awards are worn on the left breast.”

During 2012, Qld RSL republished a feature in the “Qld RSL News” from the South Australian RSL booklet “The Signal”, written by Keith Harrison, see excerpt below:

“Ideally, unofficial medals should not be worn. However if they are worn as the occasion demands, they may be worn on the right breast.

Meehan, as an RSL State President, must be aware that he is responsible to set an example by following medals protocol. If he is not capable of this simple task, it beggars belief that within Qld RSL State HQs, there is so little care given to the traditions of the Service.

 

Update Terrence Meehan - Queensland Returned and Services League (RSL) President -  07 April 2014

We are nonplussed and amazed at a recent announcement made by the National President RSL. See his announcement below

NATIONAL PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER No 3 of 2014
 


The repercussions from this statement will be immense, it means that on ANZAC day 2014, there could be thousands of State Medals added to the end of Defence racks. This could include Police Service Medals, Fire Fighters Medals, Ambulance Medals, and any other medal issued by State Governments. It could then be extrapolated to include Regional Council medals and all manner of trinkets.

Instructions from the office of the Governor General are very clear and based on the following statement:

MEDALS NOT ISSUED BY THE SOVEREIGN MUST NOT BE MIXED WITH MEDALS THAT ARE ISSUED BY THE SOVEREIGN.

We believe that Meehan wears his State Police Medal on the basis that a Western Australia Police Commissioner issued a decree that Western Australia Police Medals could be worn at the end of Defence Medals. This also happened with the Northern Territory and the New South Wales Correction Services. This ruling is of course contrary to our Governor Generals policy

It is a sad situation when the National President of the RSL, and the Queensland RSL State President do not understand that State employed Commissioners have no authority to make policy regarding National Medals that are issued by the Sovereign.

Simply put, the National President's latest statement, and Meehan's behaviour degrades the value of hard earned Defence Medals.

It appears, the National President has made his amazing statement following an announcement recorded in the Minutes of the Queensland Northern District Sixteenth Annual General Meeting and Conference held on 22 March 2014.

Initially Meehan "fell on his sword" and issued a "heartfelt apology" for his poor form in mixing a State Medal with his Sovereign conferred medals

"Good Afternoon,

Some time ago I had my medals re-mounted by a person whom I believed to be a reputable dealer, I was advised that medals awarded(as opposed to commemorative medals purchased) by both State and Federal Governments were to be worn on the left breast this advice has now been shown to be incorrect.

Yesterday I had the medal removed from my defence force rack, I unreservedly apologise for offending members of the defence community.

Kind regards
Terry Meehan
State President
RSL (Queensland Branch)"

Since his apologetic epistle, a medal's whisperer appears to have got into his ear and without Meehan properly checking the whisperer's advice, has done a three hundred and sixty degree turnaround. Hence his statement at the Queensland Annual conference. It is also reliably reported that Meehan is mumbling about suing ANZMI for defamation. We believe he has even "identified" some individuals to have his Process Servers target.

Meehan is causing turmoil and angst in the RSL. As an RSL State President he has worn a medal contrary to protocol and policy. He has apologised for his actions, then recanted, then influenced the National President of the RSL to make an incorrect announcement and exacerbate the problem of tacking State Medals to Federal Medals.

In essence Meehan is a "bumbler". Evidence of his bumbling leadership is particularly apparent in the Gold Coast region of Queensland where medals cheats and wannabes abound as executives in RSLs.

In Summary

Meehan's continued wearing of the Western Australian Police Medal, and his action being ratified by the National RSL President will open the door to the devaluation of Defence medals.

We can expect an explosion of activity by medals mounters, stitching on all kinds of State and other Awards to Defence racks.

The RSL is in a Lassez-faire style of leadership, where medals cheats and wannabes are able to rule the roost.

This is a monumental error. Australian Veterans must ensure that One Hundred years of tradition is not trashed because of the vanity and ignorance of a leader. State Medals must be worn on the right hand side and are not to be included on the left mixed with hard earned Defence Medals.

Meehan as an RSL leader has shown reckless disregard for protocols and tradition and has entangled the National RSL President in his disregard. In essence he has brought the RSL into disrepute.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

 

Update Terrence Meehan - Queensland Returned and Services League (RSL) President -  23 Oct 14

As described in our last update, Terry Meehan incorrectly berated ANZMI for "wrongly" exposing him for wearing a State medal with his Defence Medals.

He also embarrassed the RSL National President by having him make a statement in support of his recalcitrance. Rear Admiral Ken Doolan AO RAN Rtd specifically stated that "It is hoped ANZMI will correct this mistake on their website and more closely check the facts in future"

At the last Annual General Meeting of the Queensland RSL we note that Meehan has adjusted his medals by removing the offending Western Australia State Medal. Obviously he has realised that he was wrong.

 

Perhaps both Mr Meehan and Rear Admiral Doolan OA RAN Rtd may wish to apologise to ANZMI for their incorrect and disparaging remarks.

Most Veterans and ex Service personnel support ANZMI, we have vast support from all over Australia and Overseas. The support base covers Veterans from World War 2 to current Middle East conflicts. There are very few detractors.

Those who campaign against us, and threaten us, are those who have been exposed as wannabes frauds and liars.

We are self funded. We are not allied to any other organisation whatsoever and we proceed without fear or favour.

Simply put, to have two top executives of our senior ex service organisation wrongly question our integrity requires an apology.

In this matter we have achieved our objective, Meehan has adjusted his medal rack. and we have pointed out that degrading medals protocol and then disparaging ANZMI is not what is expected from a leader of the Veteran Community

Surname: Meiers
Christian Names: William John
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland
City or Town: Wondai
Service #: 3174783
Service: CMF
Branch: Artillery
Commencement of service: 26/01/1965
Completion of service: 01/10/1971
Case Notes:

 

UPDATE  June 2018

Since publishing the report about William John Meiers of Wondai Queensland, we have received further information about his false claims to be a returned veteran.  Here is a clearer picture of him on ANZAC day 2018.

Meiersupdate1

More of his disgraceful lies have come to light.

 

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His stupidity is evidenced by his use of the term "Nam" instead of "Vietnam".  Genuine veterans never us the term "Nam".  He also claims to have been at Fire Support Base Coral,  where he fired at the enemy over "open sights at 100 yards". He was not there.

From a Facebook entry, Meiers talks about number  ‘6’ gun of 12 Field Regiment that featured in the Battle of Coral in Vietnam.  Meiers claims to have been there, but he wasn't.  He has written the word "books" in the second sentence, we assume he meant to write "gooks" which is another term never used in Vietnam. 

 

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Here is a shocker.  Meiers gives adoration to the Australian flag because he fought under it and his mates died under it.  He is lying sham of a man.

 

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Finally with great confidence in his deceit, he led the Wondai RSL Sub Branch in their ANZAC Day march. 

 

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Since publishing our first report we have heard nothing from Meiers.  He appears to be hiding, perhaps using the skills he learned in the jungles of Vietnam.  Be assured that glorying in the kudos of being a "Returned Soldier" may expand the ego,  but Australian and New Zealand Veterans will not tolerate the stealing of their honour. 

Those who do, and are caught out, will appear on this website, which has a tendency to deflate the largest of egos.

 

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CASE NOTES: 

William John Meiers was born on 14 April 1946 and is a "Life Subscriber" member of the Returned and Service League (RSL) in Wondai Qld. He transferred from Jimboomba Qld in 2010. On the transfer certificate, his Army Unit is listed as 15 Fd Regt (15 Field Regiment) and his Regimental number 3174782.



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Meiers is wearing lots of buttons and badges as well as Vietnam service medals. His array is somewhat askew, as the medals are not in their proper order. In the photograph he has:

1. Australian Active Service Medal
2. Vietnam Medal
3. Commemoration of National Service Medal
4. Australian Defence Medal.

Medals 3 and 4 are in the wrong order. This is a bungle no genuine Returned Veteran would make. It is however, a blunder that a conniving Wannabe and Medal Cheat would do.

Because wannabes lack the experience of genuine Returned Veterans, they believe they can fool all the people all the time. Being photographed wearing false medals is not a good strategy, and it is a major factor in bringing these caitiffs to the justice of the Returned Veterans communities.

Fortunately, there are observant Returned Veterans at the Wondai RSL, who picked up on aspects of Meiers’ behaviour and his medals rack, indicating that he was not the full package.

Obviously Wondai has not succumbed to the general malaise throughout the RSL, where numbers seem to take precedence over integrity. The RSL membership requirements are being gradually eroded whereby inexperienced people are monitoring membership criterion. This decrepitude starts at the very top, where the National President of the RSL is not a Returned Veteran.

On 13th April 2018, Meiers sent an email to a genuine veteran detailing his involvement in the famous Vietnam Battle of Fire Support Base Coral on the 13th May 1968. Here is what he said:

Forwarded message

From: Bill Meiers <bill.meiers@y7mail.com>;
Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:00 AM
Subject: Latest RSL News
To:

G'day xxxxxxxxx

Just got my RSL news and came across the story of Coral. Well, the first attack on Coral. It's not a long article, but it is the most accurate story of what happened that I have ever read. It is written by a bloke who was a junior officer at the time and was there at the front. We deployed on May 12, and were attacked at about 0215 - 0230 hrs on the 13th. I was the number 2 on number 4 gun.

I've read a number of stories about Coral, but they all have some problems when it comes to accuracy. It's great that a story is written by someone who was right there where it was happening. Read it if you get the chance.

See you on 25th.
Bill


Meiers is a liar. He was not “number 2 on number 4 gun”, he was not at Fire Support Base Coral, in Vietnam on the 13th May 1968 when 12 Field Regiment t fought gallantly against overwhelming odds and sustained casualties.

Meiers was approached and requested to show proof of his service. Here is his response:

Bill Meiers <bill.meiers@y7mail.com>
Sat, May 19, 2018 at 5:00 PM

Obviously, you haven't spoken to too many Vets suffering PTSD. These blokes, some of them, are still up in the trees, and many will never come down. Many have died up there. Don't fucking tell me that Vets have no problems telling you their bona fides.

Why am I wasting my time even responding to you? I have a good idea of who or what you are, but you haven't had the decency to let me in on the secret. Well xxxxxxxx, you go and do all your investigation and fucking leave me alone.

Bill


On 20 May he included his number name, rank and unit in an email to a researcher

“3174783
Meiers, WJ Bdr
15 Fd Regt, R Bty, RAA

You call yourself a researcher??? And you didn't even know that. Perhaps you did, and you are only trying to sucker me in. And yes, the PTSD is very real and has been for many years. And it is never going away. I live on my happy pills”.

Bill


The unit in which he claimed that he served, 15 Field Regiment was a Citizens Military Forces unit formed in Dandenong, Victoria, in 1962. The Unit then amalgamated with the 2 Fd Regt in 1975 and was redesignated as 2/15 Fd Regt. It was never deployed to Vietnam.

Notice in his reply, he infers that he is a Returned Veteran with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) because of his service. Playing that false card is disgraceful behaviour. Perhaps he has falsely convinced his friends and family of his "Vietnam caused PTSD".

The first stop in an investigation of this nature is the Department of Veterans Affairs, Nominal Roll of Vietnam Veterans. It is ninety nine percent accurate. Those not listed have requested that their names be removed. It is, however, easy to procure evidence of service through various Unit Associations and other historical documents. The reason for Meiers' non-listing is that he never served in Vietnam.


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We then sought information from 12 Field Regiment Association, the Artillery Unit that was actually present at Coral. Here is their response:
“The 12 Field Regiment maintains a Nominal Roll of all of our blokes who were on the ground at Coral. This includes all sub-units and attached units.
In the past, this roll has proven to be very accurate and has settled a lot of disputes, however I cannot categorically state that there are no omissions.
That said, there is no-one by the name of William Meiers (or any other reasonable version of this spelling) included on the Roll and I reckon it’s a 99% bet that he wasn’t at Coral with 12 Field Regiment and its attached units.”


On 22 May 2018 almost one month after his appearance at the Wondai RSL wearing false medals Meiers said the following –;


"From Bill Meiers
To: XX
I've thought long and hard about this and have delayed answering you as I've been to see my head doctor this morning, prearranged, nothing to do with our conversation.
My mental health is more important than anything else, and I have to control my anger and aggressiveness, along with my desire to fight everything. I'm sure you took note of my aggro in some of my responses.
So I am not prepared to go any further with this matter for those reasons and also I am not prepared to divulge private information. It is just not worth it.

So, Mr Ed, I will retire my jacket and medals to the wardrobe. I will not cause Wondai RSL, or any other RSL, any further consternation. Further, I will not darken their doorstep again, so avoiding any embarrassment to parties concerned.

I hope this is acceptable and the matter can rest.

Regards
Bill Meiers"



Although Meiers maintains his claim of being a Returned Veteran, there is no doubt he is a fraud. He never served with any unit in Vietnam and served only in Dandenong, Victoria with 15 Fd Regt. We believe this matter can be decided by a Magistrate and have taken steps to ensure that Meiers has an appointment at his local Court House.
We suggest that Meiers be told to pack his goods and chattels and “nick off” from Wondai RSL and any other RSL. However, we will award him full membership with honours on this website.

For every day he has pretended to be a Vietnam Veteran he will serve Ten years on this website

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