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Surname: Urban
Christian Names: Barry
Country: Australia
State or Province: Western Australia
City or Town: Darling Range
Service #: Unknown
Service: British Army
Branch: Artillery
Commencement of service: 1985
Completion of service: 1989
Case Notes:

 

Barry URBAN Update May, 2018.

Barry URBAN the former MLA and elected member for Darling Range, Western Australia has resigned his position from the Western Australia State Parliament.

Urban resigned the day before the Western Australia Parliament Procedures and Privileges Committee released its comprehensive report into Urban’s disgraceful behaviour in -;

1. wearing an un-awarded Australian Police Overseas Service Medal,
2. claiming non existent Police service in Bosnia investigating war crimes,
3. claiming non awarded University degrees and College Certificates,
4. forging a University Degree from Leeds University.

The final result is that the Procedures and Privileges Committee recommended that Urban should be expelled from Parliament and that the seat of Darling Range becomes vacant.

The lies and deception by Urban have continued over a long period of time.

It is surprising that Urban, a long time fraud and false pretender, could have deceived so many people for so long.

Had it not been for the due diligence of Journalist Gary Adshead from the West Australian Newspaper and Western Australia retired Police Officers, Urban would still be representing the seat of Darling Range and receiving his $200,000 plus salary per annum. All based on deceit.

His claim to the Cyprus UNIFCYP medal is still being investigated.

He is also currently under investigation by the West Australia Police Fraud Squad for several possible criminal offences committed.

Below are some articles from the West Australian Newspaper, which sum up the demise of former W.A. State MLA Barry Urban.
It all started with Urban’s purchase of an un-entitled Police Overseas Service Medal (POSM) from a Perth Medal Shop and ended with his resignation from Parliament.



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Below is the comprehensive report of the Western Australia Procedures and Privileges Committee.

www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/comm...E/$file/93184449.pdf

ANZMI make no further comment other than to thank the many concerned Western Australia Police Officers, both retired and current, and members of the public who contacted us about Urban. Gary Adshead, Senior Journalist, The West Australian Newspaper, has acted in a most professional manner in the way he has dealt with this complex matter.

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PREFACE:

ANZMI are an impartial group of former Australian and New Zealand Military Veterans. ANZMI is not aligned with any political party in Australia or New Zealand. Our role in the Australian and New Zealand Veteran Communities is to protect the honour of all those men and women, who are currently serving in those Defence Forces, or who have served and or died on War Like, Non War Like, Peacekeeping, or Peacetime deployments.

Our objective is to target and expose those, who claim that they have done the hard yards, and/or boast of non- existent operational service, or wear Australian and New Zealand medals and other accoutrements that have not been awarded to them.

This site lists a multitude of Imposters, including Valour Thieves, Medal Cheats and Wannabees, who, for their own personal glory and benefit, have illegally boasted of operational service, that they have not performed, or worn medals illegally. Both these types of deceitful imposters commit offences against the Australian Defence Act 1903, Sections 80A and 80B.

In New Zealand, the illegal actions of military imposters are covered under of the Military Decorations and Distinctive Badges Act 1918 Section 4A.

Those who wear unearned medals, purchase them from Medal Dealer’s shops, or online.

Their behaviour is unacceptable to all genuine veterans.
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The below photograph depicts Mr Barry Urban. MLA. Barry Urban was born on the 10 December, 1968 in Ashlington. Northumberland, England. He is the current sitting member for the State electorate for Darling Range, Western Australia, near Perth.. He is now an Independent, following his resignation from the Australian Labor Party, following serious questions regarding his integrity and credibility.

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In the above photographs, Urban is wearing -;
1. The Australian Police Overseas Service Medal. (POSM) No clasp.
2. The United Nations Force in Cyprus Medal.(UNFICYP)


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The Police Overseas Service Medal is an award in the Australian honours system. The award is presented to those members of an Australian Police force who undertake service;
• with international peace-keeping organisations, or
• Following a request from another government for assistance.
The award was introduced by letters patent on 25 April 1991.
It comes with a clasp denoting the area of assigned UN deployment.

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The above medal is the United Nations Force in Cyprus Medal. (UNFICYP)
It is awarded: for 3 months' service with the Mission, keeping peace between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Civilian Police or members of any Nation’s Defence Forces, who serve in Cyprus for the qualifying period, are eligible to apply for this medal.

Barry Urban’s life is described below in a Biography that appeared on Face book.

On leaving school, he joined the British Army about 1984, discharged, and then joined the Hertfordshire Constabulary, England.
Biography Face book Barry Urban.
Biography
About Barry Urban

Barry was born in a mining village in the North East of England called Ashington in Northumberland. His mother was a nursing assistant and father was a coal miner until the colliery closed and he made a living selling rose bushes; a casualty of the miners' dispute in the mid 1980s.

His childhood was like that of most children from the area: hard and eventful. After leaving school at the age of 16, Barry joined the British Army. He has obtained a number of qualifications, and spent a large portion of his career on exercises and military operations in Northern Ireland, Cyprus and Namibia, attaining military medals and a citation.

In late 1989 Barry joined the UK police in Hertfordshire after a brief tour in the Ascension Islands. Throughout his police career he spent a number of years on front line duties, Police Tactical firearms and finally as a detective on the Regional Crime Squad.

During his career in the police force Barry obtained a Bachelor Degree and a Post Graduate Degree in police studies.
After returning from duties in Bosnia carrying out war crime investigations, he retired from the UK Police Force and was awarded a police medal and another citation.

After a period of almost 12 months travelling the world Barry found himself in Rockingham, Western Australia, and decided to apply for immigration and was granted a visa and later citizenship.

His first five years in Australia were spent working in the construction industry as a production manager, projects manager then area manager in the Pilbara and Kimberley.

Barry returned to the police force in 2005 and was involved in a number of major initiatives in the South East Metro District and front line policing.

In 2011 he decided to run for Local Government and was elected into the Serpentine Jarrahdale Council. His involvement has been great and vast with involvement in the State Graffiti task force, the State Trails Reference Group, Peel Tourism, National Trust and a number of other community groups.

Barry's time serving on the council verified the lack of support for the South East corridor and the Darling Range area. The frustration over this issue was felt both at home and within the community groups he is involved with, which prompted Barry to run for the seat of Darling Range in the State election and finally give the families living in the area the support they need.
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The above profile has since been removed from his Face book page.

Below is a copy of his LinkedIn profile and also through his maiden speech to the WA Parliament in 2017. -;


Lance Bombadier
Wingate Troop
3RHA J(Sidi Rezegh) Battery
June 1985 - December 1989
Served in Paderborn, Germany
Cyprus
Northern Ireland


Initially, Barry Urban’s life started to unravel following his election to the Western Australian Parliament in March, 2017, as the member for Darling Range. His photograph appeared in a number of published media articles wearing the Australian POSM and the UNFICYP medals.

Obviously, something did not seem right with some former colleagues, who knew that Urban had not served overseas, as a Western Australia Police Officer to Cyprus, in an Australian United Nations contingent, during his 6 years service. It was also obvious that he was not entitled to wear the Australian Police Overseas Service Medal. (POSM), that he had been observed wearing for many years. It could not have been awarded to him as he was not entitled.

On the 18 November, 2017, the following front page article appeared in the “West Australian” News Paper.

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Following the publishing of this article, ANZMI were inundated with emails from concerned former Police, and Military personnel, and also members of the public.

Concerns were expressed regarding Urban’s non credible and conflicting excuses, regarding how he came into possession of the POSM.

He initially claimed that the POSM was a legitimate International Police Award for his British Police service in Bosnia.

That is a lie. It is an Australian award.

He further claimed that the British and Australian Overseas Police Service Medals were exactly the same. That is also a lie.

He stated that he must have been sent the wrong one by the British Police 17 years ago. That is also a lie The British Police/Government does not issue Australian Federal Awards.

In the article, he is quoted as stating, “I will be honest with you, the medal I have is totally different to the one I should have. This was sent to me in 2000, and I have been wearing it ever since. I have written to the UK Police to find out what has gone on”. That statement is also a lie.

The medal that Urban is referring to is the “Commemorative International Police Medal” You can purchase it on line for about UK20 pounds sterling.. ANZMI refer to them as “Tin medals” They are trinkets. If you have to buy a medal, you did not earn it. Simple as that.

Below is the ribbon for the International Police Medal. It is not exactly the same as the POSM as claimed by Urban. In fact, it is nothing like it.

 

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Strangely, a former Australian Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) Major, and now Western Australia Labor Party politician and Housing Minister, Mr Peter Tinley, has been quoted below -;

Housing Minister Peter Tinley — a former Special Air Service Regiment commander — defended Mr. Urban yesterday.
“Let’s be really clear about this, his service is not in question — his administration is,” Mr. Tinley said. “He served in Cyprus, he’s served in Bosnia and he’s given great service. He’s just unfortunately got his administration wrong and applied for or obtained the wrong medal.”

By his own admission, Urban has been wearing this medal fraudulently for 17 years. That is not "wrong administration", Mr Tinley; it is deceitful behaviour over a very long period, by someone who should know a lot better.. It is contemptible to genuine Police and Military personnel who have served in Operational theatres of conflict. You should agree with that.

Urban has subsequently admitted that he purchased the POSM from a Medal dealer in Western Australia.

Since Urban was detected deceitfully wearing the Federal Award, he has taken time off his parliamentary duties on stress leave. He has since stated that he is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

He stated in the W.A Parliament on the 30 November, 2017, about his fraudulent wearing of the POSM -; (Source ABC News)

On the admission he had falsely represented a medal as an official award from British authorities, when he had actually purchased it online,
Mr Urban insisted he was under the "genuine but mistaken" belief that it was the correct medal.
"I am embarrassed by my error and for the hurt I may have caused by my actions," he said.


If you believe that statement, you might also believe in Santa !!!

Urban continues the façade. His claims are totally inconsistent with reality, and are not believable. Just ask his alleged Medal dealer!

He claims British Army military service in Cyprus with the United Nations, as a Lance Bombadier, Artillery. - You do not get awarded an Australian Police Overseas Service Medal for that.

He would know that!

He also claims British Police overseas service in Bosnia-Herzgovina investigating war crimes. – You do not get awarded an Australian Police Overseas Service Medal for that either.

He would know that as well!

Investigations are continuing by an appointed W.A. Parliamentary Committee, regarding his claims of University degrees, allegedly awarded to him in the United Kingdom, and other matters.

He has already admitted to the W.A Parliament that he was not awarded a Diploma that he had previously claimed. Two Universities in the U.K., where Urban claims to have been awarded degrees, have never heard of him.

Also his alleged military service in Cyprus and entitlement to the UNFICYP, and police service in Bosnia-Herzegovina needs to be thoroughly investigated..

He could save a lot of people a lot of trouble, by just proving his claims, and telling the truth about his Army and Police overseas service. If his memory is as bad as what it seems, he could simply order of a copy of his records from the U.K. and produce them.

In fairness, we sent Urban an email inviting him to provide details of his claimed Cyprus service, and evidence that he was entitled to wear the POSM and the UNFICYP. He has not responded.

In the meantime, Urban continues on as the State Member for Darling Range, Western Australia. He has since resigned from the Australian Labor Party, and is now an Independent for that electorate.

He is a false pretender and he should resign.

An update will be provided in the near future regarding Mr. Barry Urban. MLA.

Surname: Keough (Update) - ak
Christian Names: Norbert Basil
Country: Australia
State or Province: Tasmania
City or Town: Unknown
Service #: Unknown
Service: US Navy
Branch: Unknown
Commencement of service: 01 Nov 89
Completion of service: 29 Aug 94
Case Notes:

 

 

Keough Update – 11 February 2018

ANZMI’s initial exposure of Norbert Keough (aka Maclean III) revealed a story of lies and deceit by this fraud and wannabe.   As part of our evidence to support the claims was a very revealing newspaper story which was printed in 1993.   At the time, ‘Norb’ (as we now know him) was running for election in the United States.

The article, in it’s original format was part of our exposure; however, a number of readers have experienced difficulty reading the story.   To assist the reader, and further strengthen the evidence against Norb, we have transcribed the report in its entirety below.

The article speaks loudly about the character and actions of Norb back then and provides a very revealing insight into the person he really is.

The astute reader will no doubt also note that nowhere in this revealing article is there any mention of service in the Gulf War and the timeframes mentioned in this newspaper report future support the claim that ‘Norb’ is a medal cheat and wannabe for claiming service during the Gulf War.  

As we alluded to in our initial report, any political party considering throwing support behind Norb should be very mindful of his actions in the past.  

The Tasmanian RSL now need to step up to the plate and take appropriate action against Norbert Keough (Maclean III) who was dishonourably discharged from the US Navy and should never been allowed to join either the NSW or Tasmanian RSL.   We hope the new National President of the RSL, who was the former Tasmanian President takes notice of the type of people being allowed membership of the League.    

Ashbury Park Press, Sunday June 6, 1993

 

Bad Checks followed withdrawn Assembly candidate

By Beth Whitehouse and Steven Chambers (Press Staff Writers)

 

On New Years Eve 1991, Norbert MacLean III threw a party at the Berkeley-Carteret Hotel in Asbury Park.   He mailed formal invitations.   He rolled a red carpet from the doorway of the presidential suite to the elevator.

He hung a United Nations flag at the doorway.   He posted signs that read, “Reserved for Ambassador MacLean” in the parking area for the white limousine he’d rented.

 For months, Maclean had been claiming to be an ambassador.

“He got very offended if you called him Mr MacLean,” JoAnne Guertin, former front office manager at the Berkeley-Carteret said, “He wanted ‘Ambassador Maclean’”

Maclean, a former Lakehurst resident whose father is that town’s police chief, is far from an ambassador.   He’s a 22 year-old former Navy sailor recently court-martialed after being charged with bouncing 81 checks.

Just two weeks ago, MacLean was seeking legitimacy in a different forum.   He was on the November ballot as an independent candidate for one of the two State Assembly seats in coastal Monmouth County’s 11th District.

Maclean announced his withdrawal from the race on May 19, the day after an interview with the Asbury Park Press during which he was confronted with the Navy charges and other instances of bounced checks.   An official in Maclean’s campaign said the interview had not prompted the candidate’s decision.

…’The reason for this painful decision is because of unfinished business with the United States Navy in Washington, DC,” Maclean wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Daniel J. Dalton.

People who know Maclean say a penchant for exaggerating his importance and living beyond his means gets him into trouble.   Many of the checks he was charged with bouncing were for such things as cellular phones and black-tie fund-raiser tickets.

In a freewheeling interview last month about his candidacy and his troubles with the US Navy, Maclean painted himself as a concerned citizen with a background in public service.   He said he is a gay man who was persecuted by the Navy he served so well.

Others, particularly those who ended up with his bad checks, said the Long Branch resident is nothing but a con man.

…” If I lived in the district, he wouldn’t be getting my vote,”   Bill Ulrey, executive director of the Assembly Republican Majority, said before Maclean withdrew his name from the ballot.   Ulrey received a $1,200 that bounced as payment for two thickets Maclean used to attend a state fund-raiser in 1991.   “If this guy can’t honor a personal check, imagine what he would do in Tenton with taxpayer’s dollars.”

Maclean declined to discuss specifics of any of the 81 bad checks the Navy claimed he wrote, nor would he discuss other instances of bad checks that did not lead to charges.

…” Believe me…I would love to sit down and be able to discuss things in detail with you, but you have to understand this is in litigation,” Maclean said.   “I am pressing extremely hard to get this worked out before November”

On leave from the Navy pending appeal of his case, Maclean said he was getting in touch with the people of the 11th District and running a full-time, professional campaign.   If he loses the appeal, his sentence of a dishonourable discharge and jail time served will stand.

A government source said Maclean said Maclean wrote at least 81 bad personal checks from more than 10 banks from Washington, D.C., to Florida for a total of more than $36,280.   There are more alleged bad checks the government isn’t aware of, such as the ones written to the Berkeley-Carteret Hotel.

At least one of the 81 checks was for more than $6000, another for as little as $1.42, according to the government source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.   After a court-martial hearing in August, Maclean was found guilty of passing a dozen bad checks totalling $*,169.30.

On Oct. 31, he was sentenced to be dishonourably discharged from the Navy, to forfeit all pay, and to be imprisoned for 40 months, according to Lt. Kate Mueller, a Navy spokesman.   As per an earlier agreement, the prison sentence was reduced to four months he had already served in the Marine Brig at Quantico, Va, Mueller said.

Writing bad checks is not unusual.   But it is unusual for a young man to know the political system so well that he writes congressmen and other officials for help, the source said.

A claimed conspiracy    

Maclean said the Navy charges are a conspiracy to discredit him because he had a top-secret security clearance and was trained to decipher coded information.   He said he’s being mistreated because he is gay and pointed to the anti-gay climate surrounding the presidential primaries last year.

The government source scoffed at the notion.

“Nobody woke up one morning and said, ‘Let’s get Norbert Maclean,’” the source said.

Perhaps the biggest victim of Maclean was The Children’s Home of Burlington County.   The private, non-profit home for 50 emotionally disturbed boys between ages 10 and 16 is in Mount Holly.   Maclean offered to run a black-tie, fund-raising dinner in Washington, D.C.   Tickets sold for $100 a plate, according to a New Jersey woman who attended the dinner.

The dinner took place on April 13, 1991 at the Belling Air Force Base officers club.   About 70 people attended, the woman said.   Maclean, dressed in a tuxedo, gave a speech.

Afterward, Maclean allegedly wrote a check to the officers club for more than $6000 to pay for the dinner.   It bounced, according to the government source.

Maclean also allegedly wrote a check for nearly $2000 to the children’s home.   It also bounced, the source said.

A representative of the children’s home had no comment.   “We haven’t had any notification of the investigation being completed, so we can’t comment,” said Karen Muldoon, a home spokeswoman.

Where the money from the dinner went, government investigators don’t know.

In an interview last year, Maclean said the Navy made errors depositing his paychecks and also said that some of his checkbooks were missing.

…” Everybody bounces a check here and there,” he said then.   “I’m not going to comment on what exactly occurred.”

Maclean also allegedly duped the political party to which he claimed to be loyal.   When then-President Bush came to the Ramada Renaissance Hotel in East Brunswick Township Sept. 19, 1991, for a fund-raising dinner, Maclean made sure he was there as well.

He called Ulrey, who was then finance director for the Republican State Committee, about a week before the event and ordered two tickets at $600 each.

Maclean sent a check, complete with a little Republican elephant symbol embossed next to his name.   Ulrey said Maclean showed up at the dinner in a limousine.

The check bounced.   Maclean still owes $1200, Ulrey said.

Matt Caracappa, Red Bank, met Maclean around Christmas 1991 and hosted the New Year’s Eve party with him.  He said he’s gotten bad checks from Maclean as well, one for $1200 that was supposed to pay for his share of the New Year’s Eve bash.

For a while, Caracappa believed Maclean’s story that he was an ambassador.   After all, Maclean was constantly in a limousine.   In his own car he had a cellular phone and would use it often.

…” He had stationary printed up,” Caracappa said.   It say’s “His Excellency Norbert B. Maclean III United States Representative to the United Nations Association.”

But Caracappa said he started getting suspicious when Maclean showed up so often in New Jersey.   “He would drive to New Jersey like you drive to 7-Eleven,” Caracappa, a contractor said.   “When did he work?”

Caracappa said he believes Maclean is a con artist.

“He is a pro.   What he has gotten away with so far – it’s like a television movie.”   Caracappa said.   “He’s really very convincing.   It’s just a bogus con job.   A little boy with a big imagination”.

 After graduation from Manchester Township High School in 1989, Maclean enlisted in the Navy and eventually served as administrative assistant to Richard L. Armitage, President Bush’s special negotiator at the State Department, Navy spokeswoman Mueller said.   He received a Joint Service Achievement Medal for his work during negotiations with the Philippines over military bases.

 In an interview last year, Maclean conceded that his early successes may have led him to try to inflate his own importance.

 …” Anybody would let their ego run a little wild,” he said.   “Maybe I might have exaggerated – not exaggerated, I wouldn’t say that.”   Maybe (I) overinflated the significance of what was happening or what was going on, but that wasn’t to the detriment of anybody and it wasn’t intentional.   As for being an ambassador to the United Nations Association of America, all you have to do is pay the association, which is a nationwide, non-profit educational organization.   People who donate $500 are called patriots; people who donate $1000 are called ambassadors.   Maclean never did that though, said John Brenan, membership director.

How it worked

This was the way Maclean operated, according to the government: He would go into a bank and open an account.   The bank would send him checks for the account.   Maclean would return to the bank and close the account.   Afterward, he’d write checks to people, and they would get notices saying the account had been closed.

Maclean allegedly got a stamp made that would show the checks had been cleared.   He would go to the bank with the check, and when the bank said the account had been closed, Maclean denied having closed the accounts.

Jacob Cohen, owner of the Hot Spot Deli in Ashbury Park, learned about the system the hard way.   Cohen catered a party for Maclean on April 30 to announce his candidacy.

The candidate called back a week later to say the $137 check he had written for the party was no good, but he would be sending another, Cohen said.   When Cohen called the Virginia bank, he was told the account was closed more than a month before.

In the interview last month, Maclean denied he ever wrote the check, although Cohen later produced the check.   Cohen said that on the day Maclean withdrew his name from the ballot, he showed up at the deli and made good on what he owed.

 

Preface

We, ANZMI would like to preface this report with this comment.   No doubt, when this report appears on our Website there will be angst and insults from contemporaries and allies of Norbert Keough, some of those people already have found a place on our Website because of their lies.   No doubt, Mr Keough himself will lead the charge against us.   ANZMI will be accused of being veiled website assassins, homophobic, and much, much more.   We are used to that.   Before reaching for the keyboard to pass judgement on us, think of this.   ANZMI did not seek out Norbert Keough, he put himself out there, he created the story that is now falling in around him, he is the one who threatened genuine veterans who expressed concerns about him, both in Australia and the United States.   Norbert Keough has sought public recognition for his efforts, but with that recognition comes scrutiny.   Mr Keough has actively sought to remove much of the details of his background from the public record.   This is right, but he must also remember that once documents are made public there is a right to question his credentials.   Yes, he may threaten legal action, and yes, he may suggest that it is his sexuality that is behind this report and yes, his political allies may challenge ANZMI, but that still does not excuse his actions, nor does the written record lie.    

And now to the Facts:

With all the illumination of a star burst shell, Norbert KEOGH appeared in the ranks of the NSW RSL and became quiet a mover and shaker, initially through the North Bondi RSL Sub Branch and various veteran’s organisations and projects such as the “Keep 45 Alive”, an RSL project aimed at remembering World War 2 Veterans, he maintained a close relationship with past and present executive members of the RSL.   Norbert seemed destined for a stellar career in the NSW RSL, that is until people started to question him about his service and a bit of a smell started to appear.

When Norbert Keough was treading the boards of the NSW RSL, he managed to create for himself quite a persona.   In his day, a google search would have found a lot of information about Norb, primarily the information he wanted you to know.   He was certainly wanted it to be known he was an important cog in the wheel and managed to link himself with some notable identifies:

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The entire article (assuming its author has not removed it) can be found at:

https://www.thefullwiki.org/Returned_and_Services_League_of_Australia

He has also managed to write (or his biographer wrote) quiet a well researched history of Norbert, this can be found at:

http://www.thefullwiki.org/Norbert_Basil_MacLean_III

This is a very demanding read, so make yourself a cup of coffee before delving into the life of Norbert Keough.   If you are able to work your way through the pages of rhetoric, claims of false convictions, failed appeals and the classic ‘everyone has it in for me’ complex.

Whoever wrote the article, and we think we know who it was, has an intimate knowledge of Norbert, and despite the lengthy legalese used throughout is there any evidence whatsoever that Norbert Keough was not discharged from the US Navy after pleading guilty, and being found guilty of fraud at a Court Martial.

Norbert Keough, or ‘Norb’ as he likes to be called presents himself as a distinguished veteran of the US Navy, a Gulf War Veteran, a champion of veteran’s rights, and a non-practising Barrister.   Don’t however, challenge Norb’s credentials as he is very keen to litigate.   We wonder why?

The truth is, Norb is nothing but a fraud.   Yes, he did serve in the US Navy but if you can call being discharged after being Court Martialled ‘distinguished’ you probably believe the rest of his stories.

After threatening a number of senior members of the RSL with legal action for daring to ask legitimate questions about his past, Norb relocated to Tasmania where he reinvented himself in the Tasmanian RSL and picked up work with Jackie Lambie as an advisor on Veterans Affairs.   It also seems Norb is keen to have a tilt at politics.

Norb has created the image of a distinguished US Navy Veteran to enhance his public image, but in doing so, has left a trail of confusing photographs which depict changing medal entitlements, service not consistent with the published record, and lies about his actual service history.

This includes,

  1. Wearing the US Presidential Service Badge (Not entitled)
  2. Wearing US Medals associated with Service in the Gulf War (1990-1991) namely the Kuwait Liberation Medal – Saudi Arabia and the Kuwait Liberation Medal - Kuwait

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Norbert Maclean III (Keough) enlisted in the US Navy on the 1st November 1989 and was discharged following a Court Martial on 29th August 1994.   Keough was the subject of a Court Martial for several counts of writing bad cheques which totalled over $US8000 and a charge of AWOL.

Early on in his career with the RSL in NSW, Norb was photographed a number of times at various functions.   In these images (above) he is clearly seen wearing the US Presidential Service Badge.

The criteria for the award of this decoration is:

‘The PSB is awarded after at least one year of satisfactory service "to any member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty in the White House Office or to military units and support facilities under the administration of the Military Assistant to the President by the Secretary of the Army, the Secretary of the Navy, the Secretary of the Air Force, or, when the Coast Guard is not operating as a service in the Navy, the Secretary of Homeland Security, upon recommendation of the Military Assistant to the President". It is accompanied by a certificate and miniature lapel version. The PSB is recorded in the individual's military service records and is authorised for wear as a permanent decoration.

Recipients are, other than the President and uniformed members of the U.S. Secret Service, the only Americans authorized to wear the "Presidential Seal or Coat of Arms" on their uniforms and civilian clothes.’

There is no record of this decoration having been awarded to Norbert Keough/Maclean III, and it appears for reasons only known to himself, he has ceased wearing it as far as we know.  

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The dates of service have been confirmed by US Navy Records.   The Court Martial took place in 1992 and following that conviction, he took Leave Without Pay (LWOP) from the date of conviction until discharge while appealing the Court Martial findings.   Information from the US indicates that Keough spent 120 days in a military prison awaiting Court Martial.   Following the finding of GUILTY, a further custodial sentence was commuted for time already served in custody. From enlistment to discharge is a period of about 56 months.   Details on the Court Martial will be provided later in this report.   Suffice to say, that following a number of appeals, Keough was successful in having the AWOL charge overturned, but the finding of the Court Martial that he be dishonourably discharged (bad conduct discharge) was upheld.  Despite numerous appeals by Keough, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE to support claims the Court Martial decision to discharge Keough has ever been overturned.

Navy Times 06-13-94 Issue

GAY SAILOR SUES TO STAY IN

By Nick Adde

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - An avowedly gay sailor discharged for writing bad
checks sued the Navy for $40.1 million, claiming he was drummed out for a
crime he did not commit.

Norbert Basil MacLean III, 23, was convicted by general court-martial in
1992 on three counts of writing bad checks, totaling $8,169. He was
sentenced to confinement for 40 months, forfeiture of all pay and
benefits, reduction in grade to E-1, and a bad conduct discharge.

Because MacLean pleaded guilty, the judge reduced his jail time to 118
days, which he had served. He is on leave without pay from the Navy while
appealing the case.

MacLean said he is the victim of a "conspiracy" by Navy superiors and
criminal investigators. His commanding officer, Cmdr. Robert W. Cosgriff,
asked the Naval Investigative Service to watch him, the sailor said.
"Apparently, they found out I was gay at that time," he said.

But papers filed by prosecutors during MacLean's court martial tell a
different story.

Cosgriff, then commanding officer at the Naval Security Station in
Washington, D.C., received numerous reports from local merchants that
MacLean had bounced checks, according to prosecutors. As a result,
Cosgriff asked the NIS to investigate the sailor, who at the time worked
for Richard Armitage, a senior State Department official in the Bush
administration.

MacLean's sexual orientation became known only when he announced it, Navy
sources said.

MacLean claimed the bounced checks were caused by direct deposit
foul-ups. The Navy would not comment. on MacLean's claims.

The troubles with direct deposit were deliberate, Mac Lean said, part of
a "malicious" attempt to remove him from service. He said he pleaded
guilty because his command was holding him in the brig until he did so.

MacLean's court-martial appeal is pending before the Navy-Marine Corps
Court of Military Review. The government must respond to his civil suit
by July 20.

The part of appeal (regarding the AWOL) was overturned, however no evidence can be found to support his claim that the conviction for fraud and subsequent discharge was ever over turned.   There have been numerous attempts by Keough to murky the waters, and numerous appeals by him.   The simple fact is he is guilty and his conviction recorded in his 1992 Court Martial stands today.   Evidence of some of his appeal can be found at:

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/454/1334/489740/

Norbert Maclean III came to Australia an about 2008 and reinvented himself as Norbert Keough.

As is clearly identified in Keough’s Service Record, he was awarded four (4) US Awards:

  • Joint Service Achievement Medal
  • National Defense Service Ribbon
  • Navy ‘E’ Ribbon
  • Navy Rifle Marksman
  • Navy Pistol Marksman  

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Early on in his RSL NSW career, Norb was photographed wearing medals, consistent with the record, with a couple of (what are believed to be) US Navy Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) cadet medals (unofficial) which would have been awarded to him when he was a member of his school’s ROTC (School Cadets) unit.

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 The above image, despite being in black and white depicts the young Cadet Norb wearing two decorations which look very much like those being worn in his early RSL career.

Not listed on the record is evidence of the award of South-West Asia Service Medal for service in the Philippines.   It is for this service that he was allegedly awarded the Joint Service Achievement Medal, which came with a rather verbose certificate.   The authenticity of this certificate has also been questioned by US veterans, however as no evidence is available to refute the claim, we have given him the benefit of the doubt.   Importantly, the dates recorded on the certificate indicate he was performing these exceptional duties from June 1991 to September 1991.

Now, this is where Norb’s service history gets interesting.   If we accept the US Navy record as fact, he enlisted on 1st November 1989, and completed basic training (10 weeks).   Allowing for Christmas 89-90 he completes this training in mid-January 1990.   He then undertakes specialist training and as can be seen in the next image, graduates on 11 May 1990.    

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In this image, Norbert Keough can be seen wearing the rank of Seaman (E3).  

So, the question is, where was Norb from May 1990, until June 1991 when he allegedly appears a Petty Officer Third Class working for the Special Negotiator, US/Philippine Base Negotiations office?   Well, thanks to our friends in the United States we have found out what he was doing on New Year’s Eve 1991.   Norb was pretending to be an Ambassador with the United Nations and after booking into the Presidential Suite of a flash hotel in Ashbury Park, then threw a swank party, even going so far as to have a car park reserved for his official vehicle and demanding that the staff refer to him as Mr Ambassador, and had red carpet from the doorway of his suite to the elevator.

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This very enlightening article about Norb, it quiet succinctly sums up the circumstances which lead to his Court Martial.   A very different story than he would have us believe.    

We now know from the evidence available that from New Years’ Eve 1991, Norb was busy partying and writing dodgy cheques as detailed in the article above from the Ashbury Park Press until June 1991.   That leaves us with a six-month period from May 1990 (graduation from training) and December 1990 (known to be in US).  

If his story is to be believed, this is the only period of time he could have served in the Gulf War.   He certainly claims to have done so.

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How times change, Norb appears to rid himself of some of the unofficial medals to make was for the Kuwait Liberation Medal – Saudi Arabia and the Kuwait Liberation Medal – Kuwait.  

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By his own timeline and the evidence trail left by him, there is no possible way Keough could have served in the Gulf War during the period needed to qualify for the awards he wears.

Knowing what we do about Norb’s story so far, we turn our attention to the ‘wings’ he wears above his medal rack.   Contrary to popular belief, these are not aircrew insignia but rather, a US Navy award known as the Enlisted Aviation Warfare Specialist Insignia.

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There is no doubt this is the award he is wearing.

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The qualification requirements for the award of the EAWS badge are quite extensive and rather than recount them here, the reader is invited to follow the link to Wikipedia for a detailed explanation of the award.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlisted_Aviation_Warfare_Specialist_insignia

Clearly, given the information already at hand, there is no possible way that Norbert Keough completed this qualification, nor does it appear on the extract of his service record provided under the Freedom of Information process.

The award he wears should not be confused with the Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist Badge which typically takes 18 months to achieve, there is simply not enough time in his timeline for him to have achieved all he claims.   It is as simple as that.

ANZMI has been investigating Norbert Keough’s claims following numerous requests from Veterans in NSW and Tasmania, for many months however we have not been alone.   In October 2017, the Sydney Morning Herald published the results of their own investigation, which can be found at:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambies-advisor-norbert-oconnorkeoughs-long-and-winding-past-20171001-gys97y.html

Keough’s response to the Sydney Morning Herald was the same as it has been for everyone else who has dared to question his credentials, - he threatens legal action rather than explain the glaring anomalies in his story.

The facts in this case are straight forward once you cut through the maze of falsehoods left by Keough.   He is wearing medals and decorations he is not entitled to wear, and by virtue of the US Navy regulations, a person discharged by Court Martial is not entitled to wear any medals, even those awarded during service.   (Reference: The Navy Uniform Regulations, Chapter 6, paragraph 61002, sub paragraph 7).

Norbert Basil Keough (aka Maclean III) is a fraud, he has been a fraud most of his adult life and he has clearly been caught out wearing medals for service in the Gulf war for which he has not entitlement at all.   So why is he a member of the RSL?   Perhaps the Tasmanian RSL can do the research we have done to uncover the truth as everything about Norbert is in the public domain.

 

 

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As can be seen from the information above, Norb is quiet the litigate, but as can be clearly seen, all his appeals have been denied.   The Court Martial findings stand.

After his discharge from the Navy, Norb made numerous appearances in US Newspapers, telling his story of how he has been wronged, so it is ironic that these very same newspaper stories bring him down.   Take the following report for example, the article provides evidence of a Court win by Norb, but it’s what is doesn’t say that is interesting.   Norbs service in the Navy is detailed for all to see, but nowhere does it mention service in the Gulf War.   An oversight? we think not

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No doubt, ANZMI will be threatened with legal action because of this report, but before shooting the messenger, remember it is Norbert Keough who has sought publicity, it is he and his supporters who have suggested he will stand for election, so as a public figure, is it not right that he answer the genuine concerns of the Veterans community raised in this report?   We at ANZMI think yes.

Much of the rhetoric used by Keough in attacking those who challenge him is to play the homophobic card.   His sexuality has nothing whatsoever to do with this issue.   He has set out from day one to deceive and to portray himself as a veteran that he is not, the time has come for him to answer the obvious questions and explain his lies.

Is Norbert Keough/Maclean III a fit and proper person to be elected to Parliament?   Well, that is clearly a decision for the voters.   Is Norbert Keough/Maclean III a fit and proper person to be a member of the RSL, or to advocate on Veterans issues?   Clearly the answer is NO.

Call us keyboard warriors if you will, but this is what ANZMI does, it exposes those among the Veteran community who are nothing but frauds, those people who ingratiate themselves into Veterans organisations and get their way by shouting down the silent majority of genuine Veterans who would dare to challenge stories that simply don’t ring true but can’t afford or fear the stress of legal action, albeit veracious legal action which is the common response of the wannabe and fraudster.

This is why ANZMI is here.

Surname: Donohue
Christian Names: Neville McBryde
Country: Australia
State or Province: Victoria
City or Town: Dandenong
Service: Army
Branch: Signals
Case Notes:

 

 

UPDATE DONOHUE – April, 2018

Neville McBryde Donohue must now understand that Australian and New Zealand Veterans, ex Servicepersons and the long arm of the law are relentless.  It took five years of Donohue's nonsensical manoeuvres to get him squared away in jail.  He tried all the tricks of a seasoned con man.

He claimed to have terminal cancer and produced forged documents as proof, for which he copped further charges.  On another occasion he produced a Statutory Declaration declaring that he was required for  "special military duty" involving "secret work"

Here is the Statutory Declaration:

 

 Donohue

 

 

Of course he received more charges for the false declaration.

The Police appear to have delved deep into his past and presented Donohue with a raft of other charges as follows:

Use false document to prejudice other (3 counts),

Obtain property by deception (4 counts),

Attempt to obtain property by deception,

Fail to answer bail (3 counts),

Improper use of Defence Service decoration (2 counts),

Impersonate returned soldier (2 counts),

Drive whilst authorization suspended (3 counts),

Impersonate a public official (7 counts,)

Fail to notify employer of cancelled licence (2 counts),

Obtain financial advantage by deception,

Theft from shop.

As detailed in our previous update of April 2017, Donohue was found guilty and sentenced to a jail term.  Not satisfied with blocking the court system for four years with his frivolous and dishonest antics, he appealed the sentence and extended court procedures by another year.

On the date when the appeal was to be heard, Donohue abandoned his appeal and it was struck out.  He was immediately taken into custody and required to serve the remainder of his jail sentence. 

It took from ANZAC Day 2013 until 23 March 2018 for justice to be done.  The veteran and ex service community thank law enforcement and the Judiciary for their relentless actions.

 

 

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MAJOR GENERAL" DONAHUE - UPDATE - APR 17

Go to the very bottom of this page to see the latest update!

 

“Major General” Neville McBryde Donohue– Major General and Collingwood Supporter

Every now and then an incredibly stupid wannabe will bob his head up and be spotted by genuine Veterans.

  In this case the “head bobber” is “Major General” Neville Donohue from the picturesque Dandenong Ranges in Victoria.  Here is our man in all his “Generalship” glory:

 

 

Never before in the history of ANZMI have so many reports been sent, by so many, to so few (of us). Veteran forums and networks went viral and the above photograph taken at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on ANZAC Day 2013 was flashed all over Australia. The power of the internet prevailed and another and more interesting photograph arrived identifying Donohue.

 

 

In this photograph, Donohue is seen giving a stirring ANZAC Day 2013 speech at St Michaels Church, Kalorama in Victoria, before heading off to the MCG, ANZAC Day Football match, between Essendon and Collingwood, where he paraded his mighty haul of fake medals.

Who is Major General Donohue? Of course any person who barracks for Collingwood football club has to be a bit suspicious, but being a Collingwood Supporter and wearing a huge array of fake Military medals and claiming to be a Major General confirms that he is less than a balanced person.

We are reliably advised by ex members of the Royal Australian Corps of Signals (RA Sigs) that the “General” is in fact ex Serviceman313847 Corporal Neville McBryde Donohue from the Kilsyth area of Victoria. He served in the Australian Army between 1970 and 1976 and was never deployed to any Operational Areas. He has confessed that most of the medals are fakes but says his Vietnam Medals are genuine. That is a lie. He may be entitled to only one medal the Australian Defence Medal (ADM). Perhaps it is just as well, that we have exposed him, as we all know the case of a Corporal becoming a Fuhrer.

This case incited even more interest from the Australian Veteran Community than the Hines Brothers seen here:   http://www.anzmi.net/hines/hines.html   

Like the Hines Brothers case, State Police were quick to swoop on Donohue and lay appropriate charges.

The Australian and New Zealand Veteran community are more than ever before, sensitive to frauds, wannabes and medals cheats. Those who take liberties are gambling that they will not be caught and named and shamed on our web site. In this gamble the odds are well stacked in favour of ANZMI. So go ahead make our day.

Donohue will have his day in court.

We will track him and report his disposition.

 

MAJOR GENERAL" DONAHUE - UPDATE - APR 17

After four years of lies, deceit and denial Donohue has been found guilty in a Melbourne Magistrates Court and earned a little prison time.  Even so, the idiot has appealed his conviction:  Here is the Newspaper coverage:

 

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We can see that the Magistrate got it all correct.  It is unfortunate that Donohue is still exercising his initiative by lodging an appeal.  Let's hope that he is given a harsher sentence as a result of the appeal.

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Cowell
Christian Names: Peter William Glen
Country: Australia
State or Province: WA
City or Town: Perth
Service #: 2141953
Service: Army Reserve
Branch: Armoured Corps
Commencement of service: 1980
Completion of service: 1980
Case Notes:

 

 

UPDATE COWELL April, 2018.

Canberra beware! A new crook is in town. The less than "Admiral Peter Cowell", is still trying to convince people that he is a "mover and shaker" in the world wide intelligence network. Unfortunately it is not possible for him to succeed, for apart from the fantasies pervading his cranium, he possesses no intelligence whatsoever.

Here is the latest copy of his resume.

Originally enlisted in the Australian Army for 6 years where I served in Armored (sic) recon (Cavalry), undertaking many specialist courses including basic Intel which set to (sic) scene for my career post-Army I transferred to the Corps of Engineers. After some time I moved on to Law Enforcement within the area of Corrections and Internal Investigations. Due to my earlier service with the army. After a time I became involved with a Maritime aid agency (N.G.O.) where I became aware of new Technology of potential military threat and use against Terrorists. I brought that to the attention of senior military authorities (said technology now having been developed by the United States and in use today). This together with my Degree in Security, Terrorism & Counter-terrorism with a second major in Law Studies saw me move into the Intelligence Community. Today, as a retired IntSAR Admiral with experience in Intelligence which carries with it some potential for diplomatic fallout. I have 25 years in total in the services. In accordance with the official secrets act the remainder of my service is confidential due to its nature. Today I provide limited consultancy on Geopolitical Strategic Military matters. My most recent client was the Office of the United States Secretary of Defense (sic).

In the above resume, he claims to have earned academic degrees in Security, Intelligence and Counter-terrorism with a second major in Law Studies. On his LinkedIn page, he also claims to have earned from the Murdoch University in Perth degrees in -;

Security, Terrorism and Counter-terrorism. Further studies toward a Masters in Asymmetric Warfare, International Relations and National Security Studies

A search of Graduate Students from Murdoch University did not list a person named Peter William Glen COWELL as ever graduating with any qualifications. The Murdoch University advise that if a person is not on the publicly accessible Graduates list, he has no Murdoch University qualifications.

Response By Email (Student Liaison Officer)
Hi XX

Thank you for contacting Murdoch University.

If a student is not listed in the graduate register which is located on the Murdoch website, then they have not completed a degree at Murdoch University.

We hope this information helps!

Should you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards

xxxxxx

The Student Centre Team

His false claims that his twenty five years of service gives him experience, have connotations of the Officials Secrets Act and vast experience as an investigator. His twenty five years are all "Urine and Wind", as he served very little time as a Private Soldier in the Army Reserve and his Law Enforcement time was of short duration and spent as a Corrective Service Officer at the bottom of the promotions ladder. He never spent any time in the Navy and promoted himself to Admiral in an organization that was no more than a sham and a scam.

Here are photographs of Cowell as a Soldier and Corrections Officer:



Peter Cowell

Peter Cowell




On his Facebook page, Cowell recently claimed to be soon the Patron of a Veterans organization. He had his foot in the door, until the organization realised that he and his resume were nothing but lies and false pretences. They quickly sent him ashore, cancelled their "Ahoy shipmate" and bade him farewell.

Cowell is well represented in many places on the internet. Wherever he appears, he includes this photograph of his scruffy self as an "Admiral":


Peter Cowell



Ex Service organizations, the Defence Department and Citizens of Canberra beware of this Gilbert and Sullivan Admiral, who, by the way, has never served in the Queens Navy or sailed the deep blue or any other colour sea.

 

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Introducing Rear Admiral Peter Cowell, Retired (Rtd) of International Sea Air Rescue and Humanitarian Aid Service (IntSAR).

Note: This organisation should not be confused with "Thunderbirds are Go", the search and rescue organisation featuring Scott, Tracy, Virgil, Geoff , Lady Penelope and Parker the Chauffeur.

Although difficult to see, "Admiral" Cowell, has advised that the medals he wears are:

Note: Cowell is wearing only one legitimate medal the Australian Defence Medals (ADM). The others are all unmentionable junk. He claims entitlement to the ADM because he was discharged from the Army Reserve with Kidney Stones. Here is what he said about his military service:

Cowell's Defence File contains only two documents:

One is an Application to enlist in the Regular Army in 1979 but he did not show for processing. The other is an Enlistment Advice to join the Army Reserve in 1980 as a Private Soldier which was processed.

There are no other documents to show any activity after the enlistment.

What is this mysterious IntSAR of which Peter Cowell is an Admiral Rtd? Here in his own words is the answer:


Cowell had serious communications with Senior Politicians and also with Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO). Here is a letter head from a Western Australia Senator who apparently believed that Cowell was an Admiral. We have other letterheads from prominent politicians of the day.

Here is a letter that he claims to have written to ASIO.

 


Of particular note is this paragraph.

Cowell appears to have been afraid of foul play and in a slick move, threatens to tell all to the Embassy of the Peoples Republic of China. Below is the envelope ready for the "Drop Box" at the Chinese Embassy.

ENOUGH of the Bulldust - Threatening to pass "Secrets" to the Chinese Embassy, wearing a uniform of an Admiral with medal ribbons is evidence of his delusional state.

"Admiral" Peter Cowell is a fanciful Admiral from a fanciful organisation of no substance.

He now runs a small Courier business in Perth and should stick to that. Although his work garb is somewhat different from his IntSAR Admiral's uniform, they can both be described and "scruffy".

We suggest Cowell stop wearing a uniform that would be inestimably beyond his capacity to achieve. He exacerbates the consequences of his actions by wearing "Tin" medals and a genuine medal that was also beyond his capacity to achieve.

Because of his stupidity he has achieved the notoriety of being presented to the world as an idiot on this web site.

We welcome Peter Cowell, who is a Courier driver and not Carrier driver as he would have us believe.

 

 

 

Surname: Hammal
Christian Names: Roque Charles
Country: Australia
State or Province: WA
City or Town: Perth
Service: Navy
Case Notes:

 

 

HAMMAL Update April, 2018.

Roque Charles "China" Hammal

Our old "China Plate" the big cheese Roque "China"  Hammal has been again reported to us as a recalcitrant wannabe.  Here is a recent photo of Hammal.

 

China Hammel

 

Our original report about Hammal was fifteen years ago and the above photo shows  he still wears the shonky medals that were reported at that time.  He also still relates ridiculous lies about his service.  Here is what he has written on a Facebook page:

 "I am only going to say this once ... do not believe everything you read from ANZMI as no one has the "Guts" to put their name at the bottom of the article.    You want to find out my true "Navy Service" go to the National Archives and search for my file that can be view publicly... search for my name " Roque Charles Hammal - Navy Offical Number - R106976 " you will find my all my Service Records ... make sure you look at all of them .... you will find the truth and nothing but the truth ... and notice my files are seal " Do Not Open " and what are open displayed to the public eyes are .. "expunged"... once again ... let us keep to the business of HELPING VETERANS".

 

The latest photo shows he stills wears eight medals. The last four on his rack  are fake.  It is also cogent that to earn the four legitimate medals,  "China" spent a total of less than Thirty Six hours in Vung Tau Harbour.  Instead of being satisfied with that over powering gesture by the Royal Australian Navy,  he decided to stick four more medals on his breast.

 

Hammal

 

The Department of Veterans Affairs Nominal Roll shows that he spent Seventeen Days in Vietnam,  but the RAN chose to include the number of days from original port departure, until return to final port.  In Hammal's case it was from Singapore and back to Singapore on HMAS Swan. With fifteen days in transit and less than two days in Vietnam.

 

Hammal

 

It seems that Hammal is quite content to live his whole life as a shameful lying wannabe.  At the time of our original report he richly deserved the truth of his actions and now after fifteen years he is still a persona non grata in the Veteran Community.  As long as he keeps up his charade of "behind the lines"  secret operations,  and wearing fake medals we will keep reporting his dishonesty.

 

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Roque Charles "China" Hammal

Over the years he has obtained more medals to add to his official ‘rack’ of three but it is suggested that he did this not only in an attempt to further his ‘heroic’ war service but also to add credence to his far fetched stories.
 

 

Some wannabes claim that their records are "Secret",  have been "Sanitised" or have been "Destroyed" in an attempt to further their standing in the Veteran community.   Some records are classified Secret when it becomes a matter of National security. An Able-Seaman would not fall into this category.   Sanitised is a new ‘buzz-word’ among wannabes with the implication that should you gain access to a persons file then you will not be able to see the complete file. Records are never Destroyed. Some wannabes claim this has happened and at times attempt to provide bogus proof of this.  In conjunction with this the 30 year secrecy act for Viet Nam is over.

Sadly for wannabes and Roque Charles Hammal, the truth always wins in the end.

Roque Charles "China’ Hammal was born in the British colony of Hong Kong on 23 August 1952, of mixed race parentage. He enlisted in the Royal Australian Navy [RAN] in Sydney on 18 Oct 1969, for a period of 9 years and was allocated Service Number R106976.   At that time he was 17 years and 2 months old and served continuously in the Navy for a period of 12 years and 17 days when he requested his own discharge, which was granted on 4 Nov 81, with the rank of Petty Officer.

Since that date Hammal has concocted many stories regaling his service. He carried out this litany of half truths and fabrications to such a level whereby people he has duped have come out in support of his nefarious and spurious service and stated that they had examined Hammal's service records and supposed letters from government departments, that actually support his stories. How wrong they were.  See below.





Below are a series of photo’s taken at various times at official functions and parades.



Now compare these photo’s with Hammal’s true entitlement shown here.

Hammal made application for and was issued his Service Medals in the following order:

1.      Returned From Active Service Badge in 1991,

2.      Viet Nam Logistics Service Medal in 1993,

3.      Australian Active Service Medal 1945-75 with Clasp: Viet Nam, in1997, and

4.      Australian Service Medal 1945-75 with Clasp FESR, in 1997.

These are all he is entitled to wear.

In addition to his real entitlement Hammal wears the following authorised medal without being lawfully issued it and the following "tin"/commemorative medals:

Vietnamese Campaign Medal  - Instituted by the Government of the Republic of Viet Nam and awarded to Australians with the Queen's permission, for 181 days continuous "Special Service" in Viet Nam or adjacent waters between 31 July 1962 and 27 January 1973. Service of a lesser period also qualified if brought to an end by death due to enemy action or by being wounded in action i.e. classified as a Battle Casualty. Lesser service terminated by "medical" evacuation to Australia (sickness etc.) did not qualify.  This medal is shown below.  The unlawful wearing of this medal now places him in the position of being charged under the new act and liable to a fine of $3300 and a maximum jail sentence of 6 months.

Navy Tin Medals such as the HMAS Sydney Medal -  A tin association medal which is purchased by the wearer and has no official recognition.   This medal is shown below and is not to be worn on an authorised rack of medals

The Australian Logistic Support Forces Medal - A tin commemorative medal which is purchased by the wearer and has no official recognition.   This medal is shown below and is not to be worn on an authorised rack of medals

Foreign Service Medal -  A tin  commemorative medal which is purchased by the wearer and has no official recognition.   This medal is shown below and is not to be worn on an authorised rack of medals

 

If worn at all, these tin medals should be worn on the right breast, inline with awarded medals which are worn by the recipient on the left breast.

You will see from evidence produced below that ‘China’ Hammal’s real Viet Nam Service consisted of approximately 12 hours in Vietnamese waters on the HMAS Swan, a ship that did not anchor. An extract of evidence from  an AAT hearing on the activities of HMAS Swan in Vietnamese waters is shown below.



     

                               

For this service he is entitled to wear the Australian Active Service Medal (AASM) with Clasp Viet Nam and the Viet Nam Logistics Support Medal (VLSM)."   See the real entitlement to medals for China at the beginning of this page.

Some of Hammal's claims of Navy service:

Claim 1. Hammal has stated "Prior to my transfer from the Royal Hong Kong Navy in October 69 I had a short induction period in HMAS Penguin Diving School in February 69".  See below his own words.


               



Fact 1. Hammal has made the claim of transferring to the Royal Australian Navy from the Royal Hong Kong Navy in Oct 69. His records however show that he applied for enlistment in the RAN on 6 Aug 69 in Sydney, NSW and was enlisted on 18 Oct 69, where he declared on his enlistment papers, D.R.1, 89/69  that he had no prior Military service.
 

During his childhood ( 7 & 8 yrs old) he was billeted with his parents at HMS Tamar on Stonecutters Island (1959-60) which was the Royal Navy shore base in Hong Kong. This is confirmed on his Dept of Navy Personal Particulars Form CDO 4664 dated 12 Aug 69 shown here.


              



This would be the only contact he had with the RN. Also, on form DR1 (Application Form For Males for Enlistment) at para 10, "State highest education standard attained and name of school", he has answered "Form 5, King George Fifth School, 1969, Hong Kong.". This form dated 6 Aug 69 is shown here.

             



Claim 2. Also in the statement below he claims, "When HMAS Perth had her major refits in Sydney, I served in HMAS Parramatta during the fall of Saigon".

 

                                                 



Fact 2. From a search of posting records it is revealed that Hammal was posted to HMAS Parramatta on 17 Oct 73 until 5 May 74. The last time HMAS Parramatta was in Vung Tau harbour was on 22 May 71(for a period of 4 hrs 30mins). Saigon fell to North Viet Nam 4 years later on 30 Apr 75. This is another ridiculous and laughable claim.

Claim 3. Another from the same statement below by Hammal  is, "During my RAN service, my records show 3088 days at sea serving as a bubblie and stoker". (The term "bubblie" is RAN parlance for a Clearance Diver as opposed to a ships diver) 

 

                                                  



Fact 3. Hammal’s records show that he commenced an ABCD (Able Seaman Clearance Diver) course at HMAS Penguin, a shore based facility at Pittwater in Sydney, on 3 Jan 71. He remained at HMAS Penguin until 1 March 71, a period of 8 weeks, then he was transferred to HMAS Cerberus, another shore based facility. The length of time required to successfully complete the ABCD course was 8 months for the 1971 course so one can see that Hammal failed the course and could never have served as a Clearance Diver (CD) in Viet Nam.

Claim 4. Further to the rest of Hammal's entertaining claims as shown below, comes the one where he states," After a short introduction to the RAN in HMAS Cerberus I had various duties and served in numerous ships including a period in HMS Danae during the Viet Nam campaign".

 

Fact 4. A search of HMS Danae’s (Royal Navy) crew listing (1967-71) does not show any person named Hammal. Another absurd claim easily disproved because the full crew listing may be found at [bookmark us first....this will take you away from the site] http://www.fullspeed.to/hmsdanaeand Hammal’s naval records do not show any posting or attachments to not only the RN but to HMS Danae from the RAN.

Claim 5.
In Claim 3 above it can be seen that Hammal has stated that, "During my RAN service, my records show 3088 days at sea serving as a bubblie and stoker".

Fact 5.  Notice that Hammal has stated "3,088 days at sea" not in sea going ships but, days at sea. The claim of serving "3,088 days at sea" is simply another ludicrous claim. 3,088 days is 8 yrs and 5 mths out of a total of 12 yrs 17 days service.

This is a list of Hammal’s postings to sea going ships as copied from his official Navy records.

HMAS Anzac: 20 Apr 70 to 3 Jan 71 = 258 days.

HMAS Swan: 13 Aug 71 to 21 Jan 73 = 557 days.* #

HMAS Perth: 22 Jan 73 to 16 Oct 73 = 266 days.

HMAS Parramatta: 17 Oct 73 to 04 May 74 = 198 days.

HMAS Perth: 05 May 74 to 08 Feb 76 = 643 days.

HMAS Perth: 10 Jun 77 to 02 Dec 79 = 905 days.

Total = 2827 days on sea going ships.

* While posted to HMAS Swan, Hammal had, according to his leave record, a total of 90 days leave. Also during this period, according to the ships movements logs, the Swan spent 180 days in different ports. This means that out of 557 days on this sea going ship Hammal actually spent 287 days at sea.

# Also, it was in this period that Hammal did his one and only visit to Viet Nam.   HMAS Swan was allocated for service from 4 Oct 71 to 14 Oct 71 and accordingly departed Singapore on 4 Oct, met up with HMAS Sydney on 5 Oct, arrived and left Vung Tau on 6 Oct and arrived Manila on 14 Oct.

On both of HMAS Swan’s visits to Vung Tau, ships records indicate that the ship never anchored at any time thus making diving operations impossible. Evidence from an AAT hearing confirms this as shown below.


 

Claim 6. From Hammal’s local community newspaper, the Cockburn Gazette, dated  June 11 -  June 17, 2002 in an interview given, Hammal states, "China served in the Hong Kong Navy and the Australian Navy for more than 12 years which involved three years in the Viet Nam war."
 


 

Nowhere can it be found that Hammal refuted the above claims.

Fact 6. Claims of serving in Viet Nam for 3 years are simply ludicrous. The last RAN Escort ship in Vietnamese waters was the HMAS Vampire which departed the port of Vung Tau for Palau Tioman on 24 Nov 72.   Three years before this date ( 24 Nov 69) Hammal had just enlisted in the RAN.

Claim 7. From The West Australian newspaper dated 10 June 2002 in an article written by reporter Ben Ruse, Hammal made the statement that he, "trained as a diver in Hong Kong and went to Viet Nam with the Royal Australian Navy in 1969 at the age of 17."
 



Nowhere can it be found that Hammal has refuted this statement.

Fact 7. As can be seen in Fact 1 above, Hammal never enlisted in the RAN until 18 Oct 69. Taking into account the time required for him to complete his "rookies" course at HMAS Cerberusit is just farcical to claim he went to Viet Nam in 1969.

It is indeed a sad day when a sailor who has done so much for the Veteran community has to enhance his service far beyond what he infact did during service, as this now tarnishes everything he has done for that Veteran community and has also caused those within this community to rise against him and have the Order of Australia Medal that he was offered, quashed. Further to this Hammal had a sob story for the WA Sunday Times, dated 14th September 2003,  in which he continues to tell his lies in an endeavour to convince the public that he was worthy of the award.    See below,  you make the judgement.
 

To be a recipient of this medal, you must have a good standing in the community and a flawless record.   Non-disclosure of discrepancies can and does see the award rescinded.   This is unfortunate due to the outstanding work that Hammal has done within the community, but lies and deceit are not tolerated and the reward for this is removal of the medal as has been the case here.  Veterans were outraged at this award and took appropriate action to have it rescinded.   This is now going to create further expense for the Veteran community as this plaque below displaying OAM after Hammal’s name will have to be recast to reflect the truth. This is in Fremantle, Western Australia.

                                            

It has been alleged that  he didn’t fully understand the form and failed to disclose a matter of convictions from his past.  It is also alleged that because of his mixed race background he didn’t understand the wording of the applicable form for acceptance of the OAM.   This is refuted as he is a British subject who’s primary language is English and was at birth and has been the primary language used for approximately 34 years since arriving in Australia in 1969.

Over the past few years Veterans began to become aware of the tall stories that have emanated from Hammal and they began to check into his service record to obtain the truth.   Many Navy personnel approached CPMH for assistance here and we have worked quietly with the growing number of these Veterans who sought the truth.   It has taken a number of  years and with the assistance of all the Veterans involved we now have the truth as you see it here on these pages.

Hard copies of these records are now in our possession and these are what have been used to reflect the truth shown on these pages.

CPMH makes no apology for this entry on our pages and does not intend to pursue this into the depths of the welfare organisation that Hammal created in Western Australia, unless it is revealed that there are more untruths reported by Veterans that can do damage to the Veteran Community as a whole. This would then become a matter for other government departments and we would hand over any information that we uncovered and proved,  to the relevant authority for appropriate action.

China Hammal is a Veteran in his own right.  He has been awarded the medals as we stated above.  He has no entitlement to wear any other awards on his rack other than those we have indicated.  The Veteran Community of Western Australia should now make him aware of this and ensure that the “tin”and other illegal medals  that he wears are removed as they are an embarrassment to all genuine Veterans.   If Hammal is that gullible that he has to wear tin then they should be racked separately and worn on the right breast, well away from his awarded medals, so that the genuine people can have a quiet chuckle as he proudly displays them.

This applies to anyone who feels they have a need to wear tin.

If after being advised the protocol for wearing medals and awards he is still unsure then he should be directed to Ex Service Organisation sites where he can read the correct protocol for wearing medals after discharge………All people who wear tin would be well advised to do this as these “tin” medals are becoming an embarrassment to us all.

The Viet Nam Campaign Medal,  for 181 days "continuous Special Service" in Viet Nam or adjacent waters,  worn by Hammal has not been awarded to him.   The fines and punishments for fraudulently wearing decorations has just been amended in Parliament and penalties increased quite considerably.  Removal of this award is strongly recommended or appropriate action from the relevant authorities will be sought in the near future.
 

              
 

This photo is the latest taken -  30 Nov 2003

and so endeth the myth of the legendary service of this sailor. We can only hope that he wakes up to reality now, removes the un-awarded and tin medals he wears and continues his life as it should be, for it is these lies and his undeclared past, that has seen the awarding of the Order of Australia Medal rescinded.  A further conviction will be sought if the illegal medal is not removed.

 

Cheers China.........the beers are on us. 

There will no doubt be many comments passed on this site entry.  Please come back and visit again as we will post them all here for you to see......good and bad.  Your details will be recorded by CPMH but not displayed.  This section is to  allow you to  make your judgement on if we have been fair in exposing the truth.  This is the area where you can have your say......not our guest book.

THE CHINA HAMMAL COMMENTS SECTION
The comments below will only show which Military Service the person belonged to.

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
  Sent: Friday, 26 December 2003 6:43 AM
To:  file@cpmh.net
Subject: Re: China & PERTH launch
G'day CPMH,
An excellent article on CPMH.  I noted that you have concentrated on the facts and have not bought up any information which could be labelled as "putting the knife in"  -  well done.

Once again, well done on an article which should not draw too many "brickbats" for being demeaning.  It is pure fact and that should be quite obvious to readers.

Regards and Happy New Year,
Navy

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Thursday, 25 December 2003 9:16 AM
To:  file@cpmh.net 
Subject: China & PERTH launch
G'day Guys,
Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
 
Here's a snippet and prediction . . . . .
 
Tenix in Williamstown have just sent out lots of invitations to the launch of PERTH(3), happening on Saturday 20th March 2004.  Our dearest "friend" China would have received one, along wilt all PERTH Association members.
 
Here's my prediction . . . . .  I'd almost bet that China will accept the invitation, and if he does, he'll "demand" money from the ANVVWA ("his" welfare association) to cover the cost of airfares and accommodation for at least himself, and possibly his partner.  Reason to be given will be that since he is proposing to replicate the PERTH bells, the welfare association should pay for his attendance so he can personally make arrangements for the bell "donation".
Navy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Friday, 26 December 2003 8:52 PM
To: file@cpmh.net
Subject: CHINA

fellas what can I say? After what seems years the XXX fool has been nailed to the wall.
 There is a God! You do realise that China will bleat his innocence to anyone that will listen.
 But he didn't reckon on the care factor. WE DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
regards
Navy
 
PS I have taken the liberty to forward that article on to the number of ex-members of the RAN who had the misfortune to serve with the XXX lying XXXXX XXXX.
Can I ring a friend?
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 4:05 AM
To: file@cpmh.net
Subject: Re: CHINA

China should remember that there are people out there whose memory of events are far better than his. His OAM citation should read Order of All-round Manipulator.  China has to realize that he has over the years upset a lot of people and being awarded the OAM was the straw that broke the camels back. Bullxxxx as much as you like, but do it quietly, and to yourself. That way the person you are talking too can believe the stories.

 
regards
Navy

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 20:30 PM
To: file@cpmh.net
Subject: Re: CHINA

Well the lies have been around for a long time and now we finally have the truth.  There are a lot in the west who will have egg on their face once they read this entry.  Well done CPMH.  All us "real" veterans applaud you for your efforts.  Do government departments read your site?  If they do they should gather the facts, compare it to what they have on record and then conduct their own investigations as there is a lot more to this "bubblie" than you have shown here.   Congratulations on getting his OAM removed too.  He is not a worthy recipient of this award and if he had it, it would only belittle all those who have it or receive it in the future.  It is now up to the veterans in WA to replace the plaque that displays his name with OAM after it..........the bill should be sent to China for its replacement.

Navy
NB:  CPMH were not responsible for the removal of the OAM award.  This was taken up by concerned Veterans who, under their own steam ensured that the truth was known concerning this award.   CPMH congratulates them for their concerns and attention to this matter.
-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 9:17 AM
To: CPMH (Wannabe's)
Subject: China
 
As the advert' says....."I don't know how he can live with himself"
Thankyou CPMH, you've done a sterling job, I can only hope someone takes the ***** to court.
Regards
Navy 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 10:45 PM
To: file@cpmh.net
Subject: Roque (china) Hammal

To the instigator of this website.
I am very concerned that your organisation has taken it upon itself to "expose" persons who you claim to be not entitled to wear the medals or have not served their country in the manner which appears to be supported by the official records of the military system and D.V.A.
I am also very well aquainted with China and can vouch for his support of the veteran community in general. I believe that I would be dead or very incapable of looking after myself or anyone else if I had not received some very genuine assistance from China.
I realise that there are many people who do pretend to be what they are not. These are usually detected very quickly and do not need the national publicity of your website to deter them from offending further once discovered.
In fact, I feel very sorry for those that feel they need to act out a role to which they probably could never have belonged.
Your insistence that China wears medals to which he is not entitled is one which should be referred to the Commonwealth Police if you have genuine information that this is the case. You do not have the authority to libel anyone, regardless of the "crime" you think they may have commited. That is exactly what you are doing and your website and its various connections are being investigated further to establish what charges may be brought against you personally and anyone else found to be linked to your site.
It would appear that this attempt to villify various individuals may be connected to your own shortcomings. Perhaps you would care to make personal contact with me through my e-mail address, I will be happy to let you "investigate" me, but I assure you, that I will be doing the same for you and anyone connected with you.
I will be seeking further information about you and will refer all found to the appropriate authorities.
Yours very sincerely,
Navy

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 8:48 PM
To: file@cpmh.net
Cc:
Subject: China Hammal

 Another error in your drivel is that HMS Tamar is not on Stonecutters island it is situated on Hong Kong Island . Please print only correct facts - this includes the facts regarding the wearing of commemorative medals and the length of navy diving courses.
Navy

NB:....when one quotes facts one should check facts first.  http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/11/hong.kong/

-----Original Message-----
From: Navy
Sent:Thursday, 8 January 2004 5:26 PM
To: file@cpmh.net
Subject: China Hammal

 To those of you at CPMH who have put China Hammal's name up in lights on your websight, and "exposed" him for not being entitled to wear the Vietnam Campaign Medal, you may want to start thinking about how you are going to pay the defamation suit that I hope he brings against you.   The fact that not one of you have the guts to publicly state who you are, will not help you in the end.   You will be exposed for the world to see and there are those of us who will ensure that your names are spread around, just as you have spread China's name.    The difference between you and us, is that despite your so called criteria, we will do our homework properly and get it right before we name you.   In your report on how investigations are done you claim that in the case of real veterans, they are always given the chance to cease and desist before publication.   Just when did you contact China and give him this option?   You didn't, and he would not have done so in any case.   He doesn't have to prove anything to you anonymous cowards.  Like the gutless wonders you are, you went ahead and published this litany of lies without even following your own guidelines and checking the facts.

The people who have compiled the data on China have very conveniently changed things around to suit their own twisted ideas of what really transpired during his service in the RAN.   Had they bothered to check the Australian Navy in Vietnam Veterans Welfare Association (WA Inc) website, and clicked on to "Committee," they would have been able to read both his claims to wearing the Vietnam Campaign Medal and the OAM Story.    There is ample proof there that shows he has been investigated by the Department of Veterans Affairs, The Commonwealth Fraud Squad, and the Vietnam Veterans Association of  Australia WA Branch Inc, all of whom have verified his entiltlement to this medal.

You claim that the Vietnamese Campaign Medal was awarded with the Queen's permission for 181 days continuous "Special Service" in Vietnam or adjacent waters.   If you had done your homework, you would have known that no Australian navy ship served in adjacent waters off the coast of Vietnam for 181 continuous days during the Vietnam conflict.  The four destroyers HMAS Perth, Hobart, Brisbane and Vendetta were deployed for periods in excess of six months from their home port of Sydney on their tours of duty,  but they did not serve continuously on the Gunline for 181 days at any time.   There must have been some other criteria for the awarding of this medal to RAN sailors.   We know what it was, why don't you?

As far as his  commemorative medals are concerned, there is no law which says he cannot wear them wherever he likes once he becomes a civilian.   Some ex service Associations have made their own rules about the wearing of these medals.    The Australian Navy in Vietnam Veterans Welfare Association  (WA), of which China is the Honourable Chairman does not have any such regulations.   If he chooses to wear them for whatever reason, that is his business, and neither you nor any other association has the right to say he cannot wear them.   As someone already explained to you, despite your sarcastic remark of "yeah....right on," those of us who served on the logistic support ships, ie HMAS Sydney and her escorts, and were not real heros like yourselves had to fight for many years for recognition which was why some chose to wear commemorative medals.   Had you bothered to do your checking on that fact, you would have known that to be true.

The writer points out that China's real service in Vietnam consisted of 12 hours in Vietnamese waters on HMAS Swan, and produces a letter to back this up.   Unfortunately this letter never mentions anything about the Swan being in Vietnamese waters during this "Operation Awkward," which by the way was a common operational name given to many exercises during my 20 years in the RAN.   The letter mentions Thailand and Hong Kong but not Vietnam and gives no dates when this particular "Operation Awkward" took place.

China has never claimed that he was a clearance diver in the RAN.  He wore a cuff rate (badge) on his uniform to indicate that he was a ship's diver.   Under no circumstances would he have been able to wear this badge and perform diving duties if he was not qualified to do so.   As one of his Petty Officers on HMAS Perth in 1973, I distinctly remember that China was often required to perform diving duties (Bubblie) as opposed to Engineering duties (Stoker), and for that reason whilst on the Engineering Watchbill, most of his duties allowed him to be freed up quickly for diving duties if required.

Your writer disputes  China's claim that he served on HMS Danae for a period of time during the Vietnam conflict, and provides a website that lists the ships crew from 1967-71.   A check of this website reveals that it primarily concerns HMS Danae's first commission from 1967-69, when it returned to the UK, and lists the crew for that period of time.  It does not show any deployment details past October 2, 1969, which was before China enlisted in the RAN.   China could very well have been posted to HMS Danae on  temporary duties during his service and it would not necessarily show up in his Service Records.  Since you guys are so clever and have access to everything, it should be a simple matter for you to cross reference  HMS Danae's later deployments and those of the RAN ships China was on and see if you can match up anything.  You might just be surprised.   Many of these types of posting were logged only by confirmation signals between ships and  c.c.'d  to relevant authorities in Navy Office.   During my time on HMAS Perth in 1981, I did temporary exchange duties with USS Charles F Adams for about five days in the Indian Ocean.   This is not listed on my Service Records.   My service records also do not indicate that whilst serving at sea, I was hospitalised at HMAS Penguin for a week on two occasions.   This is confirmed by my medical records.

In China's claim that he served at sea for a period of time, your writer is clutching at straws by stating that he served on "sea going ships" as opposed to being "at sea."     In the RAN a person is posted either to shore or to sea.  That the ship may not be underway, does not diminish the fact that a person is classified as being "at sea."  by Navy Office.    A special payment called Hard Laying Allowance was paid to all sailors serving on ships irrespective of whether the ship was actually underway or sitting in dry dock, and an extra two weeks leave per year was granted to these sailors to compensate for the fact that they were at sea and living in abnormal conditions compared to their counterparts on shore based  postings.

China's service record indicates that he spent an extraordinary amount of time at sea from April 1970 until December 1979.   This is completely out of proportion to the normal sea/shore ratio for engineering sailors of his rank during that time, which was approximately two and a half years at sea followed by 18 months in a shore posting.   It appears that his only shore time was taken to allow him to do the necessary courses required for further training and promotion.   Perhaps your writer can explain this anomoly.

It has already been shown that just because a person was posted to a ship,  doesn't necessarily mean that he was actually on the ship for the full period of time without going elsewhere.   China joined the RAN  in October 1969,  Saigon fell in 1975.   China has stated he served for 12 years in the RAN, which involved 3 years in the Vietnam War.  He has also stated he was sent to HMAS Parramatta during HMAS Perth's refit in Sydney and was on that ship during the fall of Saigon.  Whilst Saigondid not actually fall until 1975, the writing was on the wall long before that time and the Americans had started a massive pull out.   HMAS Parramatta was in Asian waters during that time when the Americans started to pull out of Vietnam.  That is the period of time China refers to during his HMAS Parramatta sea service.    Simply because a particular ship that he was on was not actually in Vietnamese waters has no bearing on where China might have been at any time during his service career.    His claim is for 207 days in Vietnam.    If you had bothered to check the movements of the ships he served on from 1970 until his return to HMAS Perth in May 1974, you might have realised that most of the times these ships were in Asian waters.

Your writer conveniently supplied me with China's leave record for his period of 18 months service on HMAS Swan.    He states that China had 90 days leave.   RAN regulations would only have entitled him to 63 days for that length of time on a ship.    So how did he manage to get an extra 27 days?    Where was he, and when was this leave taken in relation to the ships movements?

Your claim that an Able Seaman (ie China) would never have records classified "Secret" and be destroyed are also false.   If you bothered to check the ANVVWA website there is a letter from the Department of Defence confirming that China's files namely, Postings/Transfers of Branch Files, Removals and Associated Allowances Files and Overseas Allowances Files were destroyed in 1990 and 1989 respectively.   Why would an Able Seaman have these files destroyed?   If there were nothing in these files that were not "Undicloseable," why were they destroyed?   China's  Service Rankings do not have any bearing on what he actually did or where he went at various times during his RAN career.    This is what you people have not and cannot establish.

You congratulate some Veterans for ensuring that China's OAM was rescinded.    It is a pity that these small minded people didn't clean up their own backyards first.   They live in glass houses, and shouldn't  throw stones.    China never asked for this award, and it was other Veterans who nominated him for it in the first place in appreciation for all he has done for the Veteran community, irrespective of which Service they served in..    He filled in the appropriate forms correctly and answered all questions asked of him honestly.    It is only a few senile old fools in other Associations, jealous of China's standing in the community, who are trying to bring him down.   This is known as the Tall Poppy Syndrome.   If they really are that upset about his name and OAM post nominals appearing on the plaque, then let them replace it at their cost.    The rest of us don't care.   If it wasn't for China's efforts, the Monument to RAN Personnel who served and lost their lives in Vietnam would not even be there.   He got off his arse and made it happen.

China's mates will stand by him, and like him, we don't give a toss about you, or the rest of the backstabbers.    You people have no right to set yourselves up as Judge, Jury and Executioners.   If you believe you are correct in your assassination of China's character, then I challange all of you responsible for compiling and publishing these accusations to at least have the intestinal fortitude to put your names to the accusations.   If you believe you have the proof, take it to the appropriate authorities for them to investigate properly.

XXXXXX

Ex RAN

   7th March 2009

Hammal has had his TPI Special Rate reinstated – this is a scandalous affair and a sad day for the veteran community

 

Chairman of the Australian Naval Vietnam Veterans Welfare Association (ANVVWA) Peter Denver has gleefully advised that China Hammal has had his TPI, Special Rate reinstated. Reinstatement has been verbally confirmed by the Department of Veterans Affairs and it is a sad day for truth, honesty and the integrity of Veterans everywhere. This is what Denver has written:

 

“Quite often I get asked how our Association founder is getting on these days. Those of you that know China Hammal are probably aware that there were people in the veteran community that did not like him, and complained to DVA that his status as a TPI was not based on service related conditions. These complaints resulted in DVA investigators coming to the conclusion that he was not entitled to his TPI pension, and subsequently took it off him.   As a result of these malicious complaints from other veterans, he had no money, had been advised he had to repay over $230,000 to DVA, was unable to work, was reduced to handouts from charitable organizations, and was often on the very edge of giving up the will to live.  

 

Those of us who knew the man, refused to accept the decision by the DVA investigators, and we stood along side him as mates.    We supported and assisted him financially to survive, helped him to get his VRB Appeal together, and he finally had his day at the VRB in January 2008.   

 

The VRB heard his appeal, and they accepted the evidence that China presented, that his claim was genuine.  This was the same evidence, that China had advised the DVA investigators was available if they would look at it during their investigation.   They did not do it.  China won his appeal and his TPI status was restored.   He received all the back pay that had been withheld.  DVA have not lodged an appeal against the decision handed down by the VRB.   What those people who call themselves veterans did to another veteran was unforgivable in my book.   They are not worthy of the title veteran.     The truth prevailed.  

 

Peter Denver

Chairman”

 

China Hammal was the founder of ANVVWA and was well known for his ability to “sell” pensions to his Pusser mates.  “Just sign the blank application, tell China on which ships you served and he would conjure up all kinds of trauma stressors to get you the TPI Special Rate, and of course there was the donation to ANVVWA for services rendered.” There are many smiling ex Pussers in the Perth WA area who benefited greatly, but dishonestly from China’s legerdemain.

After reading the original ANZMI reports on China you will understand that he was/is a thoroughly dishonest and unprincipled human being.

Before China was re-instated an article in the ANVVWA Newsletter was included, begging for funds to “Bring China Back to Perth for ANZAC Day 2009”. Here is the article:

                                                                    HELPING A MATE

Some of you may remember our Association founder  China Hammal, and may be aware of the disgusting inquisition that he had to endure at the hands of DVA investigators in which he lost his TPI status as a result of complaints that were made against him by other veterans in the community, who for reasons best known to themselves decided that he was not entitled to his TPI.   I am sure that those of you who know him are also aware that he won his case at the VRB, and his TPI was restored.  

Sadly there are still people out there who will not let it go, and they continue to hassle him about the medals he wears, which he believes he is entitled to wear, and which his detractors have never proved that he is not entitled to wear them.    This has upset him so much that he no longer participates in Remembrance Day, Vietnam Veterans Day, or ANZAC Day Services and the march in NSW where he now lives.

A motion was put forward at our last Association meeting that we try and get China over here for ANZAC Day 2009.   His financial situation is such that he cannot afford to pay his own way over here, as he is still trying to repay debts as a result of losing his TPI. It was agreed that we would try and raise the cost of his return airfare amongst ourselves.   As such we have started a private fund raiser in the office called "China Hammal – ANZAC Day 2009."    Please Note: No Association Funds will be used for this cause.

Anyone who would like to help us get China over here for ANZAC Day 2009 so he can be with his mates on this important day in the veteran community, can send a donation to our office either by cheque or money order made out to Peter Denver  our ANVVWA Chairman or Carole Matthews our ANVVWA Secretary.   Please include a note saying it is for "China Hammal - ANZAC Day 2009", and not a donation to our Association.  You will be issued with a receipt provided you include your return address, and the money will be kept in a private safe until we have sufficient to purchase his return airfare.   Any money left over after purchasing his plane ticket, from the donations received will be given to China as a gift from his mates to help him out financially.   In the event that this falls through, and he does not come over, you will be given a refund of your donation less any postage costs etc.   Further details including amount raised, when and where you can catch up with him will be detailed in the March 2009 Newsletter.

China helped a lot of people out there, and I'm sure that some of you would like to catch up with him again

China Hammal and the ANVVWA must have a filing cabinet full of information about bogus DVA claims lodged from Hammal and his mates. It is guaranteed that there are many nervous Pussers from the area who would show great generosity and donate to China to keep him quiet.  

We urge honest veterans to express their dismay at the words and actions of Chairman Peter Denver and this ex RAN Welfare Association and also suggest to DVA, that during their idle time they recheck any DVA benefits claims handled by China Hammal and his mates. Once you know what to look for you may find many anomalies and make some smiles disappear from ANVVWA members.

Like in the ANZMI case of Joe Brain (see here http://www.anzmi.net/brain/brain.html ) another crook walks away from DVA laughing. 

It is time the Australian Federal Police extended their bailiwick to include cases of DVA fraud. It is a simple fact that the current investigation section of DVA lack the expertise to bring to justice the clever major players involved in DVA fraud.

We are reliably advised that a major ESO commanded from Western Australia was well aware of the nature of China’s operation of ANVVWA, however the potential for membership from the efforts of Hammal and his mob was obviously more important to them than honesty and ethics.  Those who have knowledge about this issue are advised to come forward and advise either ANZMI at information@anzmi.net or  DVA. 

DVA are urged to take action to appeal the Hammal VRB decision and again take away that which he has fraudulently gained.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

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