Nemtsas

Surname: Nemtsas
Christian Names: Stanley Demitrios
Country: Australia
State or Province: Victoria
City or Town: Merbein
Service: CMF/Army Reserves
Case Notes:

Stanley Demetrios Nemtsas, born 18th March, 1938.  1 Third Street , Merbein, Victoria.

Stan Nemtsas is the Senior Vice President of the Mildura RSL which he claims he joined in 1964 and a member of the National Servicemen's Association, Mallee Sub-Branch, Mildura. He was a member of the Board of Management at the Sunraysia Regional Veterans Centre.

Stan is another senior member of an Ex-Servicemen's Organization who claims to have been on Active Service in South Vietnam in this case with the Australian Special Air Service. He has also boasted of being awarded a Certificate of Appreciation for his service in Vietnam which he could not talk about as it was "hush, hush", secret business.

He has also claimed that he was called up for National Service on the 30th December, 1958.

He was photographed on VP Day 2005 wearing only three medals, Reserve Forces Medal,  National Medal and the National Service Medal.

In actual fact he only served in the CMF/Army Reserve for a period of 29 years, was never a National serviceman and did not serve with the SAS  or serve on active service in South Vietnam or anywhere else for that matter.   For the full story on Nemtsas go

 

All statements that refute some of the alleged claims that Nemtsas has made come from the following sources:  
personal experience,
very reliable sources from the units that Nemtsas has claimed he trained with government bodies, and
Statutory Declarations from persons that Nemtsas has made these claims to.

 

 Stan is alleged to have stated on a number of occasions that he served with the SAS on active service in South Vietnam and received a Certificate of Appreciation for his service in South Vietnam.

 One of the Statutory Declarations comes from an ex SAS member who lives in   the area and he stated that he has received reports over a ten year period from various sources that Nemtsas had made claims that he served with the SAS  in Vietnam.

He had spoken to Nemtsas about this in the past and Nemtsas denied making such claims. He recently was contacted by a Vietnam Veteran who advised him that Nemtsas had repeated this claim to another person who's name we have and more recently to some members of the Mildura Pistol Club.

He also states that when he attended a recent RSL funeral service conducted by Nemtsas, Stan used terms when speaking of Veterans as "we, us, etc" in such a manner that anyone, who did not know he was not a Veteran, would believe he was a war veteran.

On his CV for election to the RSL committee, he refers to having trained with the SAS In an apparent endeavour to associate his name with SAS service.

Any soldier who trained in the ADF while the SAS existed could make this claim, but would not, as they would know what such a statement implied.

Another person provided a Statutory Declaration   stating that a few years back Nemtsas had boasted about receiving a Certificate of Appreciation for his service in Vietnam, Nemtsas then went on to tell him that:
 "he couldn't talk too much about what he had done during the war as he had served over there with the SAS and that a lot of what he had done was "hush, hush", secret business."   Nemtsas has made mention of being SAS a number of times since then and I have come to learn that he only served with the CMF and even as someone who never served in the Military, I feel that this is a disgrace and is a blight upon the memory of those who truly did their duty and did their country proud.

Stan Nemtsas even tried to make a claim for a DVA Pension stating that he had done Active Service with the SAS.

A Statutory Declaration from a Pension Officer at the Sunraysia Regional Veteran's Centre states that Nemtsas during the last 3-4 months of 1997 approached the above office requesting assistance with a pension from the Department of Veteran's Affairs.

 

When questioned about his service, Nemtsas stated that he served in South Vietnam with the SAS . His pension application was handed to another Pension Officer and it was registered at the centre as claim number 0016/97.

We became suspicious of his service and through investigations conducted, we learnt that Nemtsas did not serve in the Regular Army with the SAS, nor did he go to South Vietnam. He only served with the then CMF (ARES) for approximately 30 years.


 

 

On another occasion Stan Nemtsas was involved in running a Bingo Raffle on a Saturday night at the Mildura RSL.

 

There are two Statutory Declarations from this person who stated Nemtsas asked this person to change chairs with him and when this person asked why? Nemtsas stated that he cannot stand people behind him and that he had been to Heidelberg Repat on several occasions for treatment for his war caused injuries.

This person also received a threatening phone call from an unknown male person on the 28 Mar 05 stating "If you sign that affidavit you are f**king dead".

When Nemtsas joined the CMF on the 12th of July, 1965, he filled out two forms. Application for enlistment and Personal Data Sheet and on both forms he indicated "No" to any previous Military Service.  These forms are shown above.

He submitted a resume to the Mildura RSL in January 2005 for re-election in the February Elections at that Branch.  That resume is shown below

 

 That is the end of the resume, now to cover the claims Nemtsas has made in that resume . Due to the 30 year limit a copy of his Record of Service only covers up to 1974.

Nemtsas was never called up for National Service as is proved by his Record of service and his own admission on his Enlistment Form, but he wears the medal which he is not entitled to. He is a member of the National Servicemen's Association Mallee sub-branch Mildura, which was formed in October 1993.

At the time of this investigation, the Office Bearers were:

President:                 Reg Perry

Vice President:         Peter Whitfield

Secretary:                Jim Petter

Asst Secretary:        Lionel Ling

Treasurer:                Thomas Elliott

In 1951, during the Korean War, National Service was introduced. All Australian males aged 18 years had to register for 176 (later 140) days of training. In 1957 the system was changed to emphasize skill rather than numbers. The system was ended in 1959.

Nowhere in his Record of Service does it indicate that Nemtsas was posted to or did a course with 1 and 2 Commando Companies or the SAS.

There may have been personnel from both Commando Companies and the SAS on a course he was on or he may have participated in an exercise involving soldiers from those units .

 

 

 

 

 

Basic Parachute Course, 9th May 69 to 6th June 69 .

Nemtsas did do a Basic Parachute course. They were conducted for 1 and 2 Commando Coy personnel and if there were any vacancies left on these courses, they were made open to other CMF units.  As can be seen below Nemtsas at the time of his parachute course was in RA Inf.  Separate courses were held for Regular Defence Force personnel.

 

Underwater Demolition Course.  

There is no record of Nemtsas on any of his service documents available to indicate having done such a course.  Before a person can do an Under Water Demolition Course in the Commando Companies or the SAS, they first have to qualify as a Small Craft Handler, then complete a Shallow Water Assault Swimmers Course (Shallow Water Diver).

Trained as a Sniper.

There were no sniper courses done in the Australian Army till around   the late 1970's as the army was still carrying out trials on which sniper rifle they were going to purchase for soldiers trained as snipers.

Prior to purchasing a sniper rifle the army only had the .303 Lee Enfield rifles with 1918 telescopic sights and ammunition made in 1942.

That rifle had long been replaced by the 7.62 mm Self Loading Rifle better known as the SLR when Nemtsas served in the CMF.

Joined the Mildura RSL in 1964

Stanley Demetrious NEMTSAS, State Branch Membership Number 1072252 first joined the RSL 22 Jun 77, Unit of Service shown on his form, 2 Royal Victorian Regiment (2RVR).

One would think that the Mildura RSL would have carried out some proper checks especially after receiving his resume with so much false information. Maybe this will be a wake up call for them to conduct proper checks of its members .

 

 

At the time of investigation the Committee members for 2005 were:

President                               Allan Wilson

Snr Vice                                 President Stanley Nemtsas

Jnr Vice President                Les Dean

Treasurer                               Helen Jack

Firearm Safety Training Officer training the Mildura Police and the Department of Justice.

A reliable source from the Victorian Police Force stated that all Police Officers are trained by qualified Police Firearms Instructors of which two are stationed at Mildura Police.

As for the Department of Justice, Nemtsas must mean the Department of Corrections according to the police source and they don't have firearms.

President of Army Association of Victoria Inc.

Enquiries revealed there is an organization by that name registered with the Victorian Consumer Affairs number A0031820U on 8 Aug 95 and the public officer on the registration form is James William Walter PETTER who happens to be the Secretary of the National Servicemen's Association Mallee sub-branch.

There is no mention of Nemtsas on the form.   Nemtsas does get a mention as the contact person for that organization under the Mildura Council web site for the Survivor Mildura Masters in which Nemtsas conducts adventure training in compass and map reading at $10.00 per person.

President of the National Servicemen's Association.

Checks with a past President of the main Branch of the National Servicemen's Association turned up a negative result. They had never heard of him. It appears that the Queensland Branch is the only one that only accepts National Servicemen, the others accept anyone.

Enquiries with the Mallee sub-branch received the following response.

To whom it may concern:

I do not like people telling me not to pass this on to Stan Nemtsas.

As far as the Association is concerned Stan is an ex Nasho and proud of it.

I will support him in any way possible in this matter and furthermore it
will be tabled at our next General Meeting next month for our Sub-Branch to take any action required.

Furthermore this email will be given to Stan Nemtsas at my earliest
convenience, in fact I will email it to him with this reply.


Jim Petter

It would be interesting to know if the Secretary Jim PETTER a friend of Stan Nemtsas actually followed through by tabling the information at that General Meeting and if so. What action was taken. It is also obvious that no proper checks were carried out by this sub-branch.

He was a Youth Training Officer with the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia and did teach Scouts and other youth groups in the area.

One would wonder what tall stories have been told and it would be interesting to hear from these persons that were taught certain skills by Nemtsas.

I have received information that Nemtsas used to wear Vietnam Medals but stopped once it became obvious that he was not a Vietnam Veteran. It is an offence under Federal Law to wear medals when you are not entitled to them and that includes the National Service Medal.

If anyone has a photograph of Nemtsas wearing the Vietnam Medals you can contact us at information@anzmi.net  and the matter will be followed up with further action.

In conclusion I will say that I have been advised that there are a number of people in the Mildura area that can give further evidence as to the lies Nemtsas has told over the years regarding Active Service with the Australian SAS in South Vietnam and I urge you to do so out of respect for the real Veteran's both living and those that lost their lives.

From the evidence collected it is quite obvious that Nemtsas was never called up for National Service nor had he ever served with the SAS  or been to South Vietnam on Active Service.

Stan Nemtsas you are quite entitled to wear your Reserve Forces Medal and the National Medal but you have no right to wear the National Service Medal or the Vietnam medals.

I now go back to two points in his resume:

Holds a very high value to the Mildura RSL Sub-Branch.

As a past Senior Vice President I can see myself carrying on as to the good of the RSL and its values.

Stanley Nemtsas I have this to say after all the evidence I have in my possession. You have no values and you have misled a large number of people by your lies and deceit for your own personal gain and gratification.

You have trulydishonouredyourself, your family and people who trusted you.

You deserve anything that comes your way when the real Veteran's learn of your shameful lies and deceit.


21 Feb 2006

 

 

31st Aug 2010

Update Stanley Demetrious Nemtsas – Mildura, Victoria

It is with pleasure that we announce that Nemtsas has been expelled from the Victoria Branch of the National Servicemen’s Association of Australia for falsely claiming to have served as a National Serviceman.  This positive action by an Ex Servicemen’s Association (ESO) is applauded and indicative of the growing awareness within ESOs of the necessity to maintain integrity by not allowing scurrilous wannabes  infesting and distorting organisations.

Well done Victoria Branch. We are always prepared to apply our expertise to assist ESOs. 

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

 

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